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warren oates wrote: And the set piece I'm talking about is
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the one in the desert where they ride motorcycles for a long time and nothing happens in the most uninteresting way.
Okay I literally just arrived home from viewing no. 2 so forgive whatever rawness is evident in this argument but this was just a specific point I felt the need to address because I couldn't disagree more about your dismissal of this scene; I think it's spectacular on a number of levels.
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First, and most superficially, it's very visually striking, with the characters all huddled together in the dead center of the frame surrounded by vast desert emptiness. Moments, like their arrival and, in particular, Freddie's departure, call to mind the great shot (he says, as if there was solely one) from Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence rides straight toward the camera beginning as a mere pinprick on the horizon. The desert has long allowed for some compositional wonders and I found this to be no exception.

Dramatically, my initial experience of this scene was fraught with tension. Consider its placement in the plot: this comes immediately after we see the firmest, most conclusive evidence yet not only of the bullshit at the heart of The Cause but--more crucially--Dodd's awareness of the bullshit (when Laura Dern confronts him about certain discrepancies in the new book). Freddie, as well, has had doubt cast on his convictions by Kevin J. O'Connor's character. Both leads are ostensibly in fragile positions at this point, and here we see them in the middle of nowhere, far from help, riding a dangerous vehicle at increasingly high speeds... There's a sense of dread inherent in every prolonged frame on the bike, broken only (for Dodd) when we see one safely return, but enhanced (for Freddie) by Dodd's concerned remark that "he's going very fast..."

Lastly, from a narrative perspective the scene is absolutely essential as it is the moment that Freddie chooses to leave The Cause. Dodd presents him with a full, 360° range of possible paths to choose, and Freddie ultimately decides this is the ideal time to take flight. He is such an unstable character; even his resolve is so easily swayed by another character's expression of doubt. Though he might initially reject Jesse Plemons or O'Connor when they criticize Dodd, and lashes out at them as if to ward off their reasoning influence, you can see that their skepticism cuts through to him (the only major scene where Freddie calls out Dodd comes just after Plemons's character tells Freddie he's making everything up). Here, it seems that doubt finally took hold of him, and was enough to drive him away.
I'm clearly breaking this down more than it needs to be but yeah, this scene more than works on both an aesthetic and thematic level as far as I'm concerned.
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Okay, some extremely disjointed thoughts on the film, since it's been sloshing around in my mind like paint thinner in a delicious brain damaging cocktail. I'm going to spoilertag everything, even non-spoilers, because this won't be a review, just a spoiler-y discussion of anything that's on my mind. I'm not even going to directly address any questions/issues above, just because I don't know if just by seeing the film once, I'm remotely qualified to do so. This is extremely challenging work, particularly for mainstream American film, and it's not something I feel like I can comfortably speak with any authority about after only one viewing. There are deeper themes in this film - some obvious, some not - about the nature of man's relationship with his religion, about family and community, about one's need to believe in something without understanding it, and about violence, that I especially don't feel comfortable writing out until I can meditate on them a whole lot more. This is the best film of the year because it won't leave me alone.
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I don't know if the film wants to dwell on it, because I think it can stand on its own without this being stated outright to us, but Freddie Quell is severely brain damaged. When you pass a homeless man on the street who doesn't seem to have it together mentally any longer, because of something, and you wonder how his younger life might have been - this certainly is as good a story as any as to what could have made him turn out that way. That might be an odd way of putting it - I don't know if the film wants us to assume that Quell is headed to any particular economic or social trouble that would isolate him from humanity, because of how charismatic he can be. But the film was certainly communicating to me that his cocktails are doing serious, serious harm to his mental well-being beyond what mere alcoholism would do. This is a man who is tremendously ill, who is killing off and retarding the growth of brain cells at an exponential rate.

Lancaster Dodd takes a shine to Quell because of how well he fits the mold of someone who, personally and professionally, he wants around him at that point in the growth of his cult. He is surrounded by people who gawk at him, treat him with unquestioned reverence, and would do anything (including fake it outright) in order to ensure that his methods seem to be working. Here, in Quell, he has found an opportunity to both be entertained (he's in love with this strange, strange creature) and to put his methods to the test on someone who actually will show results if there are results to be had. He's an animal trainer who has decided it's time to make the leap from training dogs to training wolves. This is the ultimate test for him, whether he believes in his dreck or not. Quell isn't looking for much of anything, but like characters in Paul Thomas Anderson films past, a family structure lets someone who, in absolute terms, needs to be drifting along, gather himself and find comfort.

Joaquin Phoenix plays Quell like someone who has never had sex, but does nothing but think about it. While I don't think that's true, it's an interesting angle there. Quell has the sexual immaturity of someone who's never seen a vagina, in person, in his life - the maturity level of someone who comments "I'd put it in her butt." on an internet comment thread about an actress or model. Someone who is confused, and foul, and scattered when it comes to controlling his urges and communicating with women. His reaction when his co-worker at the department store shows him her breasts is that of a fascinated child - poking at her nipples playfully as if he was completely shocked that he was seeing them, and didn't know quite what to do with these odd protuberances.

Dodd is bored with how easily everyone is buying into his line of bullshit. He needs to make his life interesting, but his wife knows better. Mary Sue proves herself to be the muscle and the brains behind this operation - in her husband, she has a perfect charismatic puppet with an ability to put pen to paper, but someone that she still needs to work on controlling. He's ultimately in charge of this enterprise, but is capable of making irresponsible decisions ('boozing,' as Mary Sue keeps calling it; or having a loose cannon like Quell around at a pivotal time for The Cause) and needs to be reigned in. She understands the business side of this. If The Cause is going to become what it clearly can become, she needs to keep Dodd's eyes on the prize and it's thrilling to watch her manipulation of him when he seems to be getting off track. There's also a jealousy there with regards to Dodd's affection towards Quell - but it is coldly moved to the background for her more pressing concern that this could jeopardize their success - the cult is more important to Mary Sue than her marriage to Dodd ever could be. Anderson shows all of this through very tiny bits of communication - verbal and nonverbal - and both Philip Seymour Hoffman and Amy Adams are up to this difficult task.

The latter half of the film seems to give people the most trouble, and it certainly is complicated, but I think the answers that are needed are there. The conditioning of Quell is, like the cult as a whole, merely an exercise to mentally break him down. I think that putting too much emphasis on the importance of scenes like Quell walking from the window to the wall ('till the sweat drips down my... nevermind) is foolhardy, as, regardless of the importance that Dodd puts on it, it is merely a way of breaking down Quell's self-confidence and mental stability, and then winning him back at the conclusion of the monotonous, confusing 'test'. The communication session between Dodd's son-in-law and Quell was a common type of exercise in Dianetics, also parodied in The Simpsons - and is an effort to drown Quell's self-esteem and any lingering sense that he can survive without The Cause. These endurance tests are not Anderson trying to communicate something high and mighty to us - they're just ways of showing us the kinds of techniques that makes Dodd's work so easy for him, and that will lead to his success.

The motorcycle scene is an important one because of how incredibly confounding it is. We're not given a direct explanation for whether or not Dodd wanted Quell to drive off into the sunset, though he certainly thought it was a possibility, and he wouldn't have gotten involved in this 'test' if he didn't prepare himself for it happening. My personal thought is that if Quell turned around and came back, Dodd would have felt as if his brainwashing of Quell had been a success, but would have been disappointed that he still has a burden aboard The Cause as they try to expand. He needs a son, a partner in crime, but it's become obvious that it isn't going to be able to be Quell. There's no winning in this situation, as Quell drives off. Anderson sets it up as a moment of incredible tension - we're waiting for the motorcycle to spin out of control, or for Dodd to try to drive after Quell. Hoffman looks like he's going to vomit. He doesn't want either of these outcomes, but he's put himself in a situation where one or the other is going to happen. And Quell drives away.

It'd already been established that Quell is hallucinating, most bizarrely when he pictures every woman in the room naked as he drifts off on the couch, surely filled to the gills with his homemade poison hooch. Everything that happens after the motorcycle scene, including the passage of time, is in question. Quell visits his sweetheart's home, and it's established that she will not be back in his life. She was his only hope, as Dodd says later, for him to find another Master out in the world to keep him grounded. In the script, the movie theater sequence is directly referred to as a dream of Quell's - and when you think about it, a sleeping man in an empty movie theater with a Casper cartoon on being handed a phone by a man in a suit is nearly in Lynch territory - but I can see why it frustrates because Anderson doesn't communicate directly whether we should believe that what we're seeing actually happened or not. Particularly because of what follows. Dodd accepts the cigarettes as if he's aware that they were coming, and is prepared to answer Quell's question about where they met (with a hilarious bit of bullshit). What turns this scene on its ear is the contrast to a similar one in There Will Be Blood. In that film, Daniel Plainview insisted that his son speak directly to his business partner, but proceeds to take the reigns in berating his son himself. In this film, Mary Sue takes the ball and runs with it - chewing out Quell (who Phoenix plays in this scene with otherworldly silver-tinted eyes, with a sadness and a panicked resignation of a dog that's being put down) and making it known to Dodd just how strongly she disapproves of Quell's reappearance in their now stable and ever-growing world. Dodd is deeply in love with Quell. Fuck, he serenades him. He wants his 'son' back. But he feels obligated to invite Quell to leave, and to steel him with just the kind of remarks that will ensure that he does leave. Either it's Mary Sue's influence on him, or him wanting to shield Quell from what The Cause has become (and vice versa), but he is willing to cut the cord. But his heart wants what it wants. He serenades Quell, shaking, trying with a stunning degree of failure to beg Quell on a human level to stick around. He's in pain. He does not want this. He threatens Quell that if he leaves, he can never come back. He has transformed from someone caring enough to let his protege go to someone who, like Plainview, is begging for his 'son' back by insisting as harshly as possible that he'll have nothing without his 'father'. Dodd is a much more sensitive man than Plainview. He struggles to keep from weeping as he sings, he shudders, he turns a shade of red that one does not often turn. And Quell knows that there's nothing for him here. Despite his usage of what he learned from his time with The Cause in his efforts to fuck everyone and anyone, Quell is shown in the final few frames of the film to be doomed. His Master is now himself, and someone with the mental illnesses and brain damage that he has should not be in service of himself. The rest of his life will be a terrible struggle.
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I appreciate mfunk's thoughtful, impassioned defense of The Master, probably the best thing I've read about it yet from any of the film's supporters, including major critics. I suppose I just wish I'd seen the film that he describes. It's not like I'm a hard sell on what the best version of The Master, given full benefit of the doubt, might be trying to do. I mean, hell, it's not like I'm not a fan of weird difficult films, of P.T. Anderson's previous work, or of stories about seriously troubled protagonists or cults. I think I agree with mfunk and pzadvance about much of what the film is trying to do. Or at least what it thinks it's trying to do. How successful (or subtle) it ends up being is where we differ.

During the motorbike scene I even felt inklings of what mfunk and pzadvance argue it's doing. I just didn't feel them deeply or precisely enough and I don't believe that's my fault. I think the film in this moment and too often elsewhere can't quite pull off what it's really aspiring to do. So it ended up being more of an idea of a scene than a scene for me.
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Mostly a Lawrence of Arabia reference.
In the middle of an idea of a film that's not quite a film.

Mfunk really burrows down pretty deeply in Freddie's character. And it's interesting stuff to be sure and much of it rings tonally true to me, even if the particular details might not be exactly what Anderson or Phoenix had in mind. Still, the choice of a character like Freddie on whom to pin such an intimately epic character study is maybe where the film goes the most wrong for me. It's hard to imagine anyone or anything helping Freddie
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Except maybe another self-help movement started by Bill W.
whose problems remain extreme and indistinct throughout the film. Such that the whole film is really more in the mode of an uncritical recounting of "that strange thing that happened to me once between those other random episodes." I just don't feel like Freddie's found the right story to illuminate him or that Dodd's and the Cause's trajectory is best and most interestingly served in this narrative by an encounter with Freddie Quell. A character study in which the two main characters at best impact each other glancingly, perhaps wishing they could have had more of an impact. And that's that. More like the literary content of a long short story.
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I appreciate the compliment, especially since what I wrote is largely a mess, and was intended to be more of a stream of consciousness than an actual evaluation of the film, so thanks.

And on that note - you say you wish it was the film you saw - hell, I still feel like I haven't seen this whole film. I think that for such a slow-moving and deliberate film, it slams the viewer in the head so hard that it absolutely must be seen again before an evaluation of the "why" can be taken into account. There are gigantic scenes there, the motorcycle one especially, that play confusingly upon first viewing that I am assuming (and hoping) reveal themselves more and more when revisited. There are assumptions that I made that I am hoping are there wholesale once one knows where to look for them. I think the difference between you and I is that I'm comfortable with those answers not actually being there, while you demand that if they're not presented to you, they can't be supposed or assumed. I like the idea of the film being a bit of a puzzle box, and being one of those works that you must heap your own internal monologue of thought and consideration and assumption onto in order to make it a complete work. I love those types of films, I long for those types of films. But I can certainly see how they frustrate people. But I would hope that you don't intend to brush this one under the rug with only one viewing, it doesn't seem fair to what Anderson is trying to do here. I sincerely think that the effect he's stumbled upon (or deliberately crafted) rewards one who sees the film, tries to piece it together, drags his bent-up jigsaw pieces back to the theater, and ideally repeats this process until he feels he's crafted The Master to his expectations. It is very much a Lynchian film in that respect. I would love to see Anderson offer an insert of baffling and misleading "clues" in the Blu-ray release the way Lynch did with the Mulholland Drive release, for example. The one advantage that Mulholland Drive has over The Master with audiences and critics is that it's very open about how inscrutable it is, being a Lynch film, and having supernatural elements and a disjointed approach to its narrative. The Master takes a much more sly approach to its mysteriousness and its demands on the viewer.
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mfunk9786 wrote: I like the idea of the film being a bit of a puzzle box, and being one of those works that you must heap your own internal monologue of thought and consideration and assumption onto in order to make it a complete work. I love those types of films, I long for those types of films. But I can certainly see how they frustrate people. But I would hope that you don't intend to brush this one under the rug with only one viewing, it doesn't seem fair to what Anderson is trying to do here. I sincerely think that the effect he's stumbled upon (or deliberately crafted) rewards one who sees the film, tries to piece it together, drags his bent-up jigsaw pieces back to the theater, and ideally repeats this process until he feels he's crafted The Master to his expectations. It is very much a Lynchian film in that respect. I would love to see Anderson offer an insert of baffling and misleading "clues" in the Blu-ray release the way Lynch did with the Mulholland Drive release, for example. The one advantage that Mulholland Drive has over The Master with audiences and critics is that it's very open about how inscrutable it is, being a Lynch film, and having supernatural elements and a disjointed approach to its narrative. The Master takes a much more sly approach to its mysteriousness and its demands on the viewer.
Interesting that you would mention Lynch. He's one of the all-time masters for me. And his films have a unique effect on me and occupy a special corner of my imagination. To cast a spell and tell a story so engrossing from moment to moment, so Mysterious [capital "m" intended] that I'm often transported entirely, viewing after viewing. Before There Will Be Blood, I would have told you Anderson lacked the cinematic chops even to play in that territory. Which is another part of why I suppose The Master feels so disappointing. I think he could do something like what you're talking about above. Maybe Inherent Vice or whatever is next would be better suited to these experiments.

Anderson's always been interested in his actors and in the great actors' directors who have come before him. This time it seems like the reference is not so much Altman as Cassavetes. I could be misremembering but I think I even read a review of The Master called "A Man Under The Influence." It seems to me that Cassavetes' pared down open source narratives (Faces, A Woman Under The Influence, Opening Night) fit this deep immersion in character/behavior far more organically than the unwieldly script of The Master. I would have liked to see something like that: An atmospherics of character or perhaps even more narrowly of behavior.

Which to me is a fascinating idea, but one that's almost entirely at odds with everything else about the film to such a degree that I'm not sure it could work for me in this particular equation. The script itself is so chatty and linear so superficially conventional in its shapes and scene making that it never opens up for me with the space that would really be needed to move in a more Lynchian or Cassavetes-style direction.
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@Mfunk

That was a really great post, and I think it turned out much more lucidly than you had hoped. I'm sure you'll rethink things and find new ideas on additional viewings, but everything you wrote so far is great, and I think expresses a lot of the things I loved about the film while pointing out some additional points I hadn't thought of.

I have to say this movie has me more eager to re-visit it than any other film in a while.
warren oates wrote: During the motorbike scene I even felt inklings of what mfunk and pzadvance argue it's doing. I just didn't feel them deeply or precisely enough and I don't believe that's my fault. I think the film in this moment and too often elsewhere can't quite pull off what it's really aspiring to do. So it ended up being more of an idea of a scene than a scene for me.
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Mostly a Lawrence of Arabia reference.
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I don't think there's anything in that scene that will win you over if you weren't enraptured in the film up to that point. But I think it goes way beyond a simple film reference, and fits into a rich tradition of dramatic use of long takes in films. But for the viewer who was caught up in everything that happened prior, I don't see how this sudden severe shift in visual strategy could be anything but enthralling. Especially when considering how monotonous and repetitive things had gotten right before.
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#286 Post by mfunk9786 »

This is getting some expansion! Somewhere in the neighborhood of a thousand screens on Friday - it's playing at every Regal theater (even one with only 10 screens) in proximity of me, but no AMCs.

Obviously you should see it in 70mm if you can, but something tells me that a 4K digital projection (which is what most multiplexes use now) is going to look quite lovely, arguably better than a 35mm print because of the super-high resolution of the source material.
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I'm sure a 4k projection probably looks pretty nice, but I thought most multiplexes do 2k when projecting DCP?
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The ones around me open with "4K Digital Projection" as part of the introduction before the trailers. Maybe it's just a Regal thing.
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Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. The local Regal multiplex in my neck of the woods only has maybe two or three screens (out of eighteen) that actually advertise 4k projection before the films. The rest are, presumably 2k (4k showings actually say "Sony Digital 4k" after the Goofy Regal roller coaster thing, while all the others just say "Feature Presentation"), and knowing my luck a film like this will probably wind up on a 2kscreen so something like the never-ending run of The Avengers can be in 4k. I'm holding out hope that there will still be 70mm screenings playing in NYC in a couple weeks time when I have a vacation and can actually make time to go down there.
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#290 Post by mfunk9786 »

I'd imagine you could always call ahead and find out how the film is being projected. Or you could call and become completely infuriated when no one who works at the entire theater knows what the fuck is going on with the actual projection of the movies that show there. Probably the latter, unfortunately.
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Yes,probably the latter. The folks there are very nice, but often clueless about anything other than how to point you towards the correct screen. Maybe if I asked if its on screen two ten or eleven they might be able to help. I'd still rather catch a 70mm show anyway (and I haven't been to NYC in a Year's time, which is kind of sad considering I only live in Albany).
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If you do go to NYC, I highly recommend seeing it in Auditorium 1 at the Village East. It is an absolutely gorgeous screening room, perfect for this film.
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Rex Reed tries to one-up Armond: "I will also refrain from labeling The Master 'the worst movie I've ever seen!' because like the proverbial boy who cried wolf, I've blurted that cry of despair so many times, who would believe me? It might not even be the worst movie ever made, depending on how you feel about such hollow, juvenile and superficial trash as I ♥ Huckabees, Brewster McCloud, Punch-Drunk Love, Mulholland Drive, The Royal Tenenbaums, Lost Highway, Being John Malkovich, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses and … well, as they said in Hollywood during the McCarthy witch hunts, 'the list goes on.'"
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Could that be the most random list of films ever? I almost expected to continue, "Finding Nemo, Panic Room, Drive, He Said, The Taking of the Pelham 123, The Taking of the Pelham 123, The Oogieloves, Red Desert..."
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He deliberately chose films (aside from House of 1000 Corpses, I suppose) that he knows have a big following among film critics and film fans in an effort to troll. Plain and simple. Not surprising from him, just pretty amusing.
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The Narrator Returns wrote:Could that be the most random list of films ever? I almost expected to continue, "Finding Nemo, Panic Room, Drive, He Said, The Taking of the Pelham 123, The Taking of the Pelham 123, The Oogieloves, Red Desert..."
Nothing compares to the awfulness of the Oogieloves (yes, my curiosity got the better of me there).
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I guess I need to cancel the Oogieloves/Drive, He Said double feature I had planned for this weekend.
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Robert de la Cheyniest wrote:I'm sure a 4k projection probably looks pretty nice, but I thought most multiplexes do 2k when projecting DCP?
I don't know about "most multiplexes", but I know firsthand that Weinstein is definitely distributing 4K DCPs for THE MASTER.

However, it is also the case that most films are only released 2K, regardless of whether or not the theater has 2K or 4K projectors installed.
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I've been sitting on this film for eight hours or so, and I'm still under its influence. I'll probably post some thoughts in a day or two once I've collected them. In the meanwhile...
mfunk9786 wrote:
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Joaquin Phoenix plays Quell like someone who has never had sex, but does nothing but think about it. While I don't think that's true, it's an interesting angle there.
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That's an interesting point, one which hadn't occurred to me. Still, at the start of the film, he fingers the sand woman as though he isn't entirely inexperienced with a woman (I can't believe I just typed that), and yet, you're right, the way he shows off in front of the guys is a bit like saying, hey, look, I know what to do with one of these. I think that has something to do with his Aunt. It's probably true that his Aunt and the underage, nonthreatening Doris were his sole sexual partners, making his entire sexual identity inappropriate. Despite his misguided bravado when he confessed having sex with his Aunt, it was probably closer to a Midnight Cowboy type of scenario. He's trying to change his experience into something more socially acceptable, in this case, a woman made out of sand by men, much like God made a woman from a rib and some dirt. In that context, the final image suggests a deeper loneliness than just from sexual longing.

Also, about the desert scene: there is something Biblical about being in a desert, but also in the idea of leaving a desert, as in either the Israelites wandering in the desert to enter the promised land or Jesus resisting Satan's temptations before returning to society. Also, perhaps in line with inventing a religion, going west to the desert recalls Joseph Smith leading his followers to Utah. The scene where they unearth the chest containing "the second book" is something like Moses receiving the Ten Commandments combined with Smith appearing from seclusion with The Book of Mormon, though it's hard to believe that moment with the chest actually happened; then again, they're both as crazy as one another, so perhaps it did.

Other than that, I found the motorcycle scene quite tense. If either rider fell at those speeds, they would have died (I also think a reference to Lawrence was intentional). The engine's roar juxtaposed with the silence of the onlookers created a sense of unease, as did the tracking shots which kept the rider stationary in the frame, limiting our view as we felt their reckless speed. Since this "pick a point, go to it, and return from it" game was entirely out of nowhere, I felt this was a new level of insanity being displayed by Dodd. A motorcycle is an obvious display of power, and taking his followers into the desert to witness his power was self-aggrandizing to the extreme.
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#300 Post by mfunk9786 »

Excellent observations, fleshed those thoughts out much better than I did above. Thanks!
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