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Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:53 pm
by cdnchris
I just got an e-mail about this as well and came here to post. I find it odd it'll be only a few titles. April's choices seem weird: Breaking the Waves stays dual-format but every other title gets a DVD-only edition on top of the dual-format.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:06 pm
by swo17
This is terrible news, as my library will surely just stock the DVD-only editions now.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:08 pm
by Ashirg
I'm thinking DVD editions are for rental only.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:09 pm
by knives
I'm with Swo on this. It seems largely counter intuitive though Ashirg is probably right.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:12 pm
by Ashirg
Looks like I was wrong. DVD Empire has these DVD editions for pre-order.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:55 pm
by Yaanu
Were there really that many people who complained about having to buy dual-format?
Also, it looks like Criterion.com hasn't updated with any news or stealth-updates about the DVD-only releases, so it might be a retail option only. Or they just haven't updated yet. Time will tell, I suppose.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:57 pm
by Moe Dickstein
Could be this is an experiment to see what sales are like for the versions.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:04 pm
by Shrew
If there's a backlash/demand, I'd imagine it's coming from institutions more than the general market. Local libraries may have been less willing to buy dual-format releases than Criterion expected.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:24 pm
by Askew
The DVD only release for The Great Beauty has been up for pre-order on Criterion's site for a couple of weeks now.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:20 pm
by Moe Dickstein
yeah but this is the first time they've been offered for non new release films.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:27 pm
by swo17
Perhaps pre-orders for those DVD editions exceeded expectations, prompting this latest change.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:13 am
by Ashirg
What's more interesting, is that the new list price for DVD-only editions is 24.95 instead of old 29.95
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:32 am
by Matt
Shrew wrote:If there's a backlash/demand, I'd imagine it's coming from institutions more than the general market. Local libraries may have been less willing to buy dual-format releases than Criterion expected.
I will cop to being part of the problem. I've stopped buying most new Criterion titles for my library due to the extra work the dual-format releases make for our cataloger and other staff. I'll go back to buying every title with a stand-alone DVD release again.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:33 am
by domino harvey
Matt: you just made the list, pal
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:44 am
by Jeff
I wonder if the new DVD-only editions will have a Criterion sticker that says "FOR-MATT FORMAT."
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:44 am
by Matt
I more than make up for this shortcoming with all the stuff I buy for myself, though.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:55 am
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Ashirg wrote:I'm thinking DVD editions are for rental only.
Or local libraries like mine that buy Criterion but don't do blu-ray.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:48 pm
by macaca
EddieLarkin wrote:HTF are reporting that several future titles will now see DVD only editions alongside the regular Dual Formats.
Am I an idiot, or does this completely defeat the purpose of the dual-format release?
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:57 pm
by swo17
People who haven't made the leap to Blu-ray yet will surely be split between those who prefer the lower price point of the DVDs and those willing to pay a little more to futureproof. And some of those who have adopted Blu-ray still occasionally find use for the DVDs included in the dual format editions. So no, it doesn't defeat the purpose.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:10 pm
by FrauBlucher
There are probably a few who are stubborn about converting to blu, but for the most part I don't see Criterion continuing this practice of DVD only for any length of time. This could just be a fact finding undertaking by the marketing departments of CC or Sony.
BTW... Is the Sony logo on the backs of the new releases. I couldn't tell from the packaging photos.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:41 am
by RyanGallagher
FrauBlucher wrote:BTW... Is the Sony logo on the backs of the new releases. I couldn't tell from the packaging photos.
The Sony logo is not on the back of these releases, nor the sell sheets in the PDFs for the upcoming titles.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:43 pm
by macaca
swo17 wrote:People who haven't made the leap to Blu-ray yet will surely be split between those who prefer the lower price point of the DVDs and those willing to pay a little more to futureproof. And some of those who have adopted Blu-ray still occasionally find use for the DVDs included in the dual format editions. So no, it doesn't defeat the purpose.
My understanding was It was cheaper to produce 1 package with 2 formats, as opposed to making 1 for each. So producing both makes no sense to me, at all.
Like many, I definitely have no use for 2 extra DVDs & bloated packaging, but I guess we're in the minority.
Let's keep catering to the people who are late to the party. \:D/
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:03 pm
by Moe Dickstein
Eventually the DVDs will go away, but this is just the first step and there will be bumps in the road.
Re: 706 Master of the House
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:33 pm
by Zot!
Yaanu wrote:MASTER OF THE HOUSE will be getting a DVD-only edition, as well as RIOT IN CELL BLOCK 11, A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME, and IL SORPASSO.
What is the reasoning here?
Edit: This looks to have already been discussed.
Re: Criterion Goes Dual-Format
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:24 pm
by Yaanu
Interestingly, the upcoming DVD-only editions are all one-disc releases; only the previously-announced GREAT BEAUTY release has a two-disc DVD edition. Also, in a few cases, the booklets are condensed to only one essay.
So there's that incentive to get the dual-format release.