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Father Mother Sister Brother (Jim Jarmusch, 2025)

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:58 pm
by brundlefly
Teasing Father Mother Sister Brother.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:35 pm
by Michael Kerpan
A naming homage to Naruse's Daughter, Wife, Mother?

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:56 pm
by hearthesilence
Michael Kerpan wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:35 pm A naming homage to Naruse's Daughter, Wife, Mother?
Possibly. Jarmusch loves Naruse - he's recommended When a Woman Ascends the Stairs to cinephiles in the past, and it wouldn't surprise me if he similarly thought highly enough of Daughter, Wife, Mother to pay tribute.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 1:38 am
by cantinflas
That would be a wonderful homage. Let's see if he mentions it in Venice this weekend. In his director's statement, he wrote:
Jim Jarmusch wrote:Father Mother Sister Brother is a kind of anti-action film, its subtle and quiet style carefully constructed to allow small details to accumulate — almost like flowers being carefully placed in three delicate arrangements. Collaborations with the masterful cinematographers Frederick Elmes and Yorick Le Saux, the brilliant editor Affonso Gonçalves, and other frequent collaborators elevate what started as words on a page into a form of pure cinema.
This all comes across beautifully even in that teaser, which I'm fully in love with. I seem to recall at one point he said there may not be any music at all but it's now credited to Jarmusch & Anika. I wonder if that is an original piece in the teaser or does anyone recognise it?

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 2:16 am
by hearthesilence
cantinflas wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2025 1:38 am This all comes across beautifully even in that teaser, which I'm fully in love with. I seem to recall at one point he said there may not be any music at all but it's now credited to Jarmusch & Anika. I wonder if that is an original piece in the teaser or does anyone recognise it?
Shazam says it's "Brother Mike" by Daniel Fridell and Sven Lindvall

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 2:34 am
by cantinflas
hearthesilence wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2025 2:16 am
cantinflas wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2025 1:38 am This all comes across beautifully even in that teaser, which I'm fully in love with. I seem to recall at one point he said there may not be any music at all but it's now credited to Jarmusch & Anika. I wonder if that is an original piece in the teaser or does anyone recognise it?
Shazam says it's "Brother Mike" by Daniel Fridell and Sven Lindvall
Oh nice, yep that's it. Thanks heaps. Fits Jarmusch's style perfectly.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:38 am
by cantinflas
Venice press conference

One great thing that came out of it is that he intends to shoot a new film in France.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:30 pm
by FrauBlucher
Wow. Jarmusch is taking heat on his Instagram page for using Mayim Bialik. Users are posting they will either boycott the film or boycott Jarmusch

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:34 pm
by knives
Good thing the internet isn’t real life.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:19 pm
by hearthesilence
FrauBlucher wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:30 pm Wow. Jarmusch is taking heat on his Instagram page for using Mayim Bialik. Users are posting they will either boycott the film or boycott Jarmusch
I was afraid that might happen, but I've noticed over the past few months there have been social media accounts dedicated to going after any musician or celebrity who was considered supportive of Israel's destruction of Gaza. I only noticed them because I was taken aback by some of the harsh negativity thrown at public figures who didn't fit that description at all. In these cases, the definition for support has really broadened to a ludicrous degree that's a poor reflection of reality. In a lot of ways it's not surprising - the day after Hamas launched their attack, there was an easy consensus in the intelligence community that Islamophobia and anti-semitism were both going to spike going forward, and it was sadly predictable that individuals who were solidly prejudiced in either way were going to negatively shape the public discourse. If you follow Jarmusch's IG account, it should be obvious where he stands on the issue and how outspoken he has been, which makes this garbage being posted about him all the more moronic. Such is the state of things.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:20 pm
by beamish14
hearthesilence wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:19 pm
FrauBlucher wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:30 pm Wow. Jarmusch is taking heat on his Instagram page for using Mayim Bialik. Users are posting they will either boycott the film or boycott Jarmusch
I was afraid that might happen, but I've noticed over the past few months there have been social media accounts dedicated to going after any musician or celebrity who was considered supportive of Israel's destruction of Gaza. I only noticed them because I was taken aback by some of the harsh negativity thrown at public figures who didn't fit that description at all. In these cases, the definition for support has really broadened to a ludicrous degree that's a poor reflection of reality. In a lot of ways it's not surprising - the day after Hamas launched their attack, there was an easy consensus in the intelligence community that Islamophobia and anti-semitism were both going to spike going forward, and it was sadly predictable that individuals who were solidly prejudiced in either way were going to negatively shape the public discourse. If you follow Jarmusch's IG account, it should be obvious where he stands on the issue, which makes this garbage being posted about him all the more moronic. Such is the state of things.
Bialik is an anti-vaxxer idiot as well, which is surprising considering her Ph.D in biology from UCLA

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:28 pm
by hearthesilence
beamish14 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:20 pm Bialik is an anti-vaxxer idiot as well, which is surprising considering her Ph.D in biology from UCLA
That too, but people creating and willfully spreading the misinformation are the real problem, not people who make the mistake of believing them and admit that when they're being asked.

FWIW, Art Spiegelman had a sad but hilarious moment in an interview earlier this year about R. Crumb where he discusses their arguments - one question he threw out among many was asking Crumb "why are you antivax?" I'm sure a lot of us have to deal with the same arguments now thanks to RFK and his new position of power.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:38 pm
by ryannichols7
I have really struggled with this Bialik issue, because A. I can't stand her, irrespective of her personal positions (which obviously make her much worse), and B. I have the utmost respect for Jarmusch, one of my favorite artists overall and someone I genuinely think I'd get along with. he has been pretty outspoken and supportive of Palestine, so this is a really weird conundrum. I'm personally just sticking with my much longer fandom and faithfulness to the director and just looking forward to the movie. if I can enjoy A Place in the Sun on the channel right now knowing Elizabeth Taylor was someone I wouldn't be able to stand on a personal level and disagree with heavily, maybe..okay, seeing Bialik in this movie is gonna be a struggle, but I'm not bringing out the pitchforks for Jarmusch, I guess that's all I'm saying. as much as I am disappointed in him for casting her

I'm also surprised it this long for this fire to get going

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:55 pm
by hearthesilence
How far do you want to take this though? Take someone like Charlton Heston - he didn't just oppose gun control, he actively worked with the NRA, even vehemently advising them not to support any during private meetings immediately following the Columbine massacre. That bothers me and if he were still alive I wouldn't be thrilled to see him in a prominent film by a favorite filmmaker. James Earl Jones was also in the NRA. Per Jones, ""I am a member of the National Rifle Association, but not a political member. I just throw the political mail from the NRA into the trash. Charlton Heston campaigns on behalf of the NRA...When it comes to the right wing politics of the NRA, I don't get into that. I just believe in my right to have a gun in my house." (FWIW, he adds "Ceci [wife Cecilia Hart], on the other hand, is a member of the anti-gun lobby, so we pretty much cancel each other out.") As a member, he probably paid dues, and that can provide financial support that the NRA uses for lobbying...I wish he wasn't a member, but if he were still alive, I can't say I would wrestle with the prospect of seeing him in another movie.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:56 pm
by Finch
Wasn't Bialik considered for Jeopardy at some point in the last two years? The name rings a bell.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:58 pm
by hearthesilence
Finch wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:56 pm Wasn't Bialik considered for Jeopardy at some point in the last two years? The name rings a bell.
She split hosting duties with Jennings until Sony decided not to renew her contract, a decision that actually surprised many.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:06 am
by Finch
Thanks hearthesilence!

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:30 am
by beamish14
ryannichols7 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:38 pm I have really struggled with this Bialik issue, because A. I can't stand her, irrespective of her personal positions (which obviously make her much worse), and B. I have the utmost respect for Jarmusch, one of my favorite artists overall and someone I genuinely think I'd get along with. he has been pretty outspoken and supportive of Palestine, so this is a really weird conundrum. I'm personally just sticking with my much longer fandom and faithfulness to the director and just looking forward to the movie. if I can enjoy A Place in the Sun on the channel right now knowing Elizabeth Taylor was someone I wouldn't be able to stand on a personal level and disagree with heavily, maybe..okay, seeing Bialik in this movie is gonna be a struggle, but I'm not bringing out the pitchforks for Jarmusch, I guess that's all I'm saying. as much as I am disappointed in him for casting her

I'm also surprised it this long for this fire to get going
Bialik has always been a terrible actor who appeared in sitcoms that I detested, so she’s been easy to ignore for me as well. Like Neil Patrick Harris, a horrible relic of my youth who just won’t fucking go away

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am
by cantinflas
The soundtrack for Father Mother Sister Brother will be released on 14th November

Just listening to the available track Jetlag already has me floating.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 1:10 am
by cantinflas

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:00 am
by hearthesilence
Re: his fascination with negative reviews, he's talked about that numerous times. It's been too long for me to remember where he might've said this (either in an interview or one of his screening appearances in NYC), but there was a time many years ago (I think earlier in his career, possibly in the 1980s) when he carried a clipping of a particularly negative review around with him. It wasn't because he had a grudge or was haunted by it or anything, he just found it entertaining and wanted to hold on to a copy.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:51 am
by Michael Kerpan
I especially loved the little story about transporting the Golden Lion statue.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:00 am
by hearthesilence
Speaking of awards, the Academy should really have given him an honorary Oscar by now.

Among North American filmmakers, Jarmusch and Cronenberg should be at the top of the list. I'd also give one to Albert Brooks, Gus Van Sant, Atom Egoyan and probably Brian De Palma (even though I'm a skeptic who doesn't share the high opinion some might have of him). None of them have ever won an Oscar IIRC.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:54 pm
by cantinflas
hearthesilence wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:00 am Speaking of awards, the Academy should really have given him an honorary Oscar by now.
Give Jarmusch all the awards.

I didn't realise he had such a difficult time on The Dead Don't Die. Now it makes sense why he took that long before making his new one and was so protective of its festival selections.

I'll admit I didn't respond to the zombie movie when it first came out, I think after such a high with Paterson the genre aspect didn't quite connect. Around this time last year though I began a rewatch of all of his films (watching Dead Man on NYE was perfect so I'm going to make that tradition now) and by the time I got to it I absolutely loved it. Everything I enjoy from him is in there so it's annoying it took me that long.

Are there plenty of screenings for Father Mother Sister Brother in the US? It finally got picked up for theatrical here but not until April. So sad.

Re: Jim Jarmusch

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 12:52 am
by hearthesilence
Only in LA and NYC beginning Christmas weekend but it opens in more cities early next year.