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justeleblanc
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#201 Post by justeleblanc »

Barmy wrote:If he continues with cheap digital, it is all downhill from IE. Even the highest grade digital, such as Apocalypto, cannot substitute for film, although maybe in a few years that will no longer be true.
For someone like me, who's not at all impressed with rich manipulative cinematography, I actually loved the cheap look to this film. Sure it was a gimmick on some levels, and I did like the look of Mulholland and Highway, but how mundane is a simple "good looking image" these days -- especially with Lynch, where the real mastery is with the art direction and sound design.

As for other directors moving to digital, true, I will lose sleep when Nancy Meyers shoots her first film in digital... I mean, her stories NEED to be shot in film, and I don't care if it's the highest of high defs that she's using, it still will never look like The Holiday. But I digress....
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#202 Post by Antoine Doinel »

marty wrote:
Barmy wrote:If he continues with cheap digital, it is all downhill from IE. Even the highest grade digital, such as Apocalypto, cannot substitute for film, although maybe in a few years that will no longer be true.
I think you will find that 35mm film will soon disappear and will only be used by purist directors. The day will come when digital video will be the norm and digital projectors will be in all cinemas and thus cutting the ridiculously exorbitant costs of prints that distributors have to bear.
Couldn't agree more. Also, in terms of keeping things archived, going digital makes a lot more sense. I don't think we're quite at the point where the quality of digital can replace the feel and look of 35mm film, but it's not that far off.
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#203 Post by mikeohhh »

Antoine Doinel wrote:
rumz wrote:
Antoine Doinel wrote:The jokes (and the film has lots of them) just aren't as funny as Lynch thinks they [are].
Harry Dean Stanton bumming money off most everyone else in the film? Hilarious.
Of course, it would've been funnier if it wasn't done twice.
it was kind of funny when he was bumming money off rich, famous actors but it was very funny when he was bumming money off the student interns
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#204 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Seattle Times interview with Lynch.
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#205 Post by Antoine Doinel »

David Lynch and Donovan - together at last:
CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK
Donovan, Lynch: Mellow fellows
The master of subconscious cinema and the Hurdy Gurdy Man promote Transcendental Meditation with freewheeling reminiscences.

By Ann Powers, Times Staff Writer

Since word got out that David Lynch and Donovan would appear together in three cities — New York, Washington and Hollywood — people have been buzzing about the unlikeliness of the pairing. What could the master of subconscious cinema share with the flower-power Hurdy Gurdy Man, beyond a devotion to Transcendental Meditation (TM), the spiritual path this mini-tour promoted? It was like putting Anne Rice and Bob Newhart on tour together because they're both Catholic. But Sunday at the Kodak Theatre, some signs emerged that Lynch and Donovan share more than a spiritual path.

The free event opened with Lynch in an "Actors Studio"-style Q&A, responding to questions from the audience read by his muse, actor Laura Dern. Then Donovan, whose music, Lynch declared, "conjures magical feelings," played his hits interlaced with anecdotes culled from his recently published memoir. Proselytizing was kept to a minimum, with each artist instead using the evangelizing tool of personal reminiscence.

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What the night revealed in both men is an immovable innocence — a belief that art can and should be free from over-intellectualism or aesthetic second-guessing. This conviction takes Lynch into weird, disturbing psychic corners; for Donovan, it's connected to childlike wordplay and storytelling. Though one operates in the rarified world of art cinema and the other is a pop star, each has produced bodies of work that don't quite fit into traditional canons, serene in their outsiderness.

Fielding questions seemingly chosen to split the focus between his filmmaking and TM advocacy — his new foundation, featured in a glossy handout available at the theater doors, seeks to provide schoolchildren with scholarships to pay for the $2,500 TM instruction fee — Lynch took the folksy, direct tone that dominates his new book, "Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness, and Creativity." Much of what he shared, from his love of sawing pine logs to his preference for digital video over film to his credo that "the artist does not have to suffer to show suffering," appears almost verbatim in the book.

Still, he managed to seem unrehearsed. Compulsively fluttering his right hand as if it were a lost character from "Eraserhead," he spoke in friendly, oddly Reaganesque tones about how meditation has helped him shed "the rubber clown suit of negativity" and could do the same for America's youth. "Ramp up the light of unity and all diversity is appreciated," he said. It's an uncomplicated solution to America's education crisis, more "The Straight Story" than "Lost Highway." But this was an evening of appreciation, not debate. The crowd cheered his every word.

Donovan set himself up for maximum approval too, structuring his set around irresistible hits like "Jennifer Juniper" and sharing tales of hanging out with the Beatles and Bob Dylan (he even sang a "lost verse" George Harrison wrote for "Hurdy Gurdy Man"; too bad it was nothing special). After his career cooled in the 1970s, Donovan suffered accusations of being an imitator, but in recent years his reputation has been repaired. With sunshine pop back in vogue, his hook-happy songs now sound sweet instead of corny, and he can mention his famous friends without seeming like a hanger-on.

As he wiggled his hips and finger-picked his guitar, Donovan showed himself more the heir to Buddy Holly than Woody Guthrie. His great gift is for irresistible hooks and meaningful free association.

"Happiness runs in a circular motion," he crooned, getting the ultra-cool Hollywood crowd to sing along with a fa-la-la. Like most of his lyrics, it sounded a bit like a Zen koan, a bit like a schoolyard chant.

Not every tune Donovan trotted out was as light-filled and charming. An obscure number about a wild week in Mexico fell flat. (Another, "Young Girl Blues," had a nice cynical edge.) A meditator's hymn that will appear on his next album was ponderously literal. His bassist and percussionist didn't stand out, though his daughter Astrella, who joined him on several songs, offered a wistful self-penned ballad, "Dream," that would fit better on a David Lynch soundtrack than anything her dad has written.

Fellow TM enthusiast Mike Love of the Beach Boys wandered onstage to join in a finale of "Mellow Yellow," and then Lynch strolled out. The filmmaker read a version of a Buddhist loving kindness prayer from his book as his pal softly picked his guitar. Then they locked arms and left the stage, two soldiers of innocence decamping for the night.
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#206 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

The Onion A.V. Club interview with Lynch.
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#207 Post by godardslave »

The "selling" of his meditation experiences by lynch, i think is no doubt well intentioned, but i cant help but feel uncomfortable that he is moving into sell-out territory, with courses in how to achieve inner peace at $2500 for rich kids with too many hang-ups.

I cant help but wonder where this is taking lynch and if it will affect both himself as an person and his work as as an artist and film maker adversely in the future.
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#208 Post by Jean-Luc Garbo »

Lynch and Donovan? :shock:

godardslave, what do you mean rich kids with too many hang-ups?
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#209 Post by barrym71 »

chaddoli wrote:I can't predict the future, but I highly doubt David Lynch will ever make a better film than Mulholland Dr.

Having said that, I do still find Inland Empire to be incredible. I think part of the mystery lies with the Polish woman, crying alone in the room, watching the film unfold. I assume she is the original slain actress, and Nikki/Susan must find her. When she does, they kiss, and Nikki/Susan disappears - what a beautiful moment!
I agree that this scene is a key to the film. For me, the movie was about how flexible identity is. How something like the death of a close relative could "create" a new version of yourself or you could lose that old version of yourself through the process of grief. I think he shows all of these instances of identities being "infected" by outside forces (places, people, events). For instance, I thought that the fact that there were Polish characters in the film came from the fact that the film was shot in Poland (so the identity of the film itself is affected by where it was shot - instead of a wholesale tarting up of Poland as LA). Isn't the title of the film from a place that Laura Dern told Lynch about? To me, that's another instance of the film being influenced in a profound way by an external force, the same way that characters in the film seem like they become different people. I dunno. I probably need to see it again, but I was riveted by all of the interesting things that were happening around notions of identity and how the characters communicated with one another. My friends seemed mystified and frustrated with the film, but I thought it coherant, at least through the lense I was using.
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#210 Post by chaddoli »

I agree, I think Place in the film is very strong. Lynch's representations of Hollywood are cutting satire as well as genuinly felt beauty. The singing, dancing whores are his metaphor for what Hollywood eventually does to its actresses. And Lara Dern's Nikki is stronger, and wins - they don't overtake her, but she has to die to transcend that curse (that took poor crying television viewer). And, by god, she does it and gets the thunderous applause she (and Dern) deserves. After all that devastation she comes out cleaner on the other side, and I think the film ends the best way it can, with a party. Sweet.
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#211 Post by Cosmic Bus »

David Lynch is appearing at NetMage 07, a media festival in Bologna, Italy tomorrow tonight. Along with screening Inland Empire, there's going to be a live performance called "Eyerophany" with Lynch, Angelo Badalamenti, Danish DJ/musician Trentemøller, Thomas Pynchon, Paul Virilio, and video game designer Hideo Kojima. The site is vague in regards to what sort of show to expect, but they also reference a screening (or live music performance?) of Lynch's "Polish Night Music" with Marek Zebrowski on Friday.

Sounds like something that could be quite interesting to see!
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#212 Post by zombeaner »

I might have to see this simply because a friend of mine has a bit part in it, apparently he is archaeologist, hehehe...
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#213 Post by Oedipax »

Thomas Pynchon? That's gotta be some kind of mistake (or some musician's alias).
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#214 Post by Kudzu »

Oedipax wrote:Thomas Pynchon? That's gotta be some kind of mistake (or some musician's alias).
Then again, he may be going for the bag-over-the-head approach as he has in other media.

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#215 Post by blindside8zao »

when can those of us in places like Georgia or North Carolina expect to see this movie, whether in theaters or DVD?
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#216 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Jonathan Rosenbaum's review.
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#217 Post by chime_on »

blindside8zao wrote:when can those of us in places like Georgia or North Carolina expect to see this movie, whether in theaters or DVD?
I live in North Carolina and I've seen it three times already... in NYC.

I think the DVD is coming out this summer.
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#218 Post by chime_on »

bump, the official website has been updated with a lot of new cities on the release schedule (including Raleigh/Durham, which means I get to see it a few more times in the theater!)
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#219 Post by Greathinker »

It's coming to Minneapolis now, the 16th, but it doesn't give you any other information-- what theater?
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#220 Post by blindside8zao »

Is there a possibility of this having a wider release later?
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#221 Post by Macintosh »

chime_on wrote:the official website has been updated with a lot of new cities on the release schedule (including Raleigh/Durham, which means I get to see it a few more times in the theater!)
cool. I'm planning on going to the Raleigh screening.
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#222 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Moviemaker interviews Lynch.

San Francisco Chronicle interviews Lynch

As does GreenCine Daily with a Video Q&A
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#223 Post by Oedipax »

blindside8zao wrote:when can those of us in places like Georgia or North Carolina expect to see this movie, whether in theaters or DVD?
You might've already heard, but it's playing in Atlanta now, at least through this Thursday. I haven't had a chance to see it yet, but I'm hopefully going sometime this week...
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#224 Post by Matt »

The Twin Cities location IE is playing at is the Oak Street Cinema. Starts 2/16, shows nightly at 7:30 with additional matinees at 4:15 on Saturday and Sunday.
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#225 Post by Faux Hulot »

Oedipax wrote:You might've already heard, but it's playing in Atlanta now, at least through this Thursday. I haven't had a chance to see it yet, but I'm hopefully going sometime this week...
Held over for another week, and the Plaza is the perfectly seedy past-it's-prime place to see it.
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