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Fletch F. Fletch
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#26 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Here is a good collection of reviews from the Cannes screening. Man, this sounds like an incredible film(s) but I have a feeling that this version will never see the light of day.

A clip from the film.
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#27 Post by souvenir »

It seems a good bet that Che (in some version) will play at the New York Film Festival since Film Comment's Sept/Oct issue is to contain a NYFF preview and Soderbergh's film has been announced (scroll down) for the cover.
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#28 Post by Grand Illusion »

I really hope this isn't just more "let's put Che on our t-shirt" b.s.

Of course, I'm personally biased being friends with two people who had family members murdered because of Che and his policies.
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#29 Post by Antoine Doinel »

Lou Lumenick somwhat confirms that this will showing at the NYFF and speculates that the film may end up going straight to cable.
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#30 Post by souvenir »

Antoine Doinel wrote:Lou Lumenick somwhat confirms that this will showing at the NYFF and speculates that the film may end up going straight to cable.
Not really confirmed at all. Lumenick is simply "reporting" a blog post on Spout from July 9 with the exact same info that I posted a week ago in this thread.
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#31 Post by Jeff »

souvenir wrote:
Antoine Doinel wrote:Lou Lumenick somwhat confirms that this will showing at the NYFF and speculates that the film may end up going straight to cable.
Not really confirmed at all. Lumenick is simply "reporting" a blog post on Spout from July 9 with the exact same info that I posted a week ago in this thread.
I'm betting that Karina Longworth came to that conclusion after reading Souvenir's hypothesis here. This is how film journalism works now: forum speculation begets blog postings which are co-opted by the mainstream media. Souvenir is at the center of the cinematic universe.
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#32 Post by Antoine Doinel »

Blogging ethics aside, is no one else concerned that the film may end up being dumped on cable?
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#33 Post by domino harvey »

Antoine Doinel wrote:Blogging ethics aside, is no one else concerned that the film may end up being dumped on cable?
Del Toro is going to be angled for an Oscar nomination, they'll show it theatrically somewhere first.
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#34 Post by Antoine Doinel »

Well, it will need to get picked for US distribution first. And nobody seems in a rush to grab it.

The Argentine Spanish trailer.
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#35 Post by swo17 »

Unfortunately, I cannot dissociate this film from that crappy Medellin storyline on Entourage. Still excited to see it though.
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#36 Post by chaddoli »

Wow, that looks beautiful.
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#37 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

chaddoli wrote:Wow, that looks beautiful.
It sure does. An Benicio del Toro looks really good as Che. Very cool.
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#38 Post by mfunk9786 »

Do distributors realize that there's a hipster culture in this country that would flock to this film, length and insane amounts of boredom be damned?
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#39 Post by Andre Jurieu »

mfunk9786 wrote:Do distributors realize that there's a hipster culture in this country that would flock to this film, length and insane amounts of boredom be damned?
Even though it feels like pop-culture has been infested with hipsters, they probably aren't actually a big enough demographic to warrant taking that much of a financial risk. Plus, knowing hipsters, once it becomes obvious that the film is being targeted to hipsters, it will no longer hold the same appeal.
swo17 wrote:Unfortunately, I cannot dissociate this film from that crappy Medellin storyline on Entourage. Still excited to see it though.
Phew! I'm not the only one.
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#40 Post by rs98762001 »

Was Malick ultimately involved with this? His influence seems to hang heavily over that trailer. Lots of visual similarities to The Thin Red Line. Looks beautiful.
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#41 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

I heard he did some writing initially.
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#42 Post by King Prendergast »

Hipsters don't know the first thing about good films. Most will tell you that Eternal Sunshine or The Science of Sleep is the greatest film ever made. When you try to talk to them about Fritz Lang or Mizoguchi Kenji they look dumbfounded at you with their soulless eyes.
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#43 Post by miless »

I think you're forgetting their obsession with Buffalo '66. (as this, or Gummo, are oft cited as best-ever material... at least among those I encounter)
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#44 Post by Fletch F. Fletch »

Lucky filmgoers at the this year's Toronto Film Festival:
Both Toronto and New York fests will screen Steven Soderbergh's ``Che'' (starring Benicio del Toro as the Latin American revolutionary), which divided audiences at Cannes.

Pic will unspool at its full four-hour-plus length.

``We get to have our cake and eat it too,'' said Bailey, who replaced Noah Cowan as fest co-director this year. ``We'll show it the first time as two separate films on two separate nights. People also will get to see it as one back-to-back epic with a 15-minute intermission. You can choose your `Che.'''
Official int'l site

Brief interview with Benicio Del Toro
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#45 Post by Antoine Doinel »

A U.S. distribution deal is apparently very close to being done, though how it will roll out is still being decided:
It now looks likely that the long version of Che that screened in Cannes will initially be road-showed in the US, although it remains to be seen how wide this release will be. "My position is to do two cities maximum. The position of the distributor and Steven is to do many more cities."
Peter Howell of the Toronto Star goes into alarmist mode and dubs the film "Havana's Gate". I dunno, every negative review of this film I read makes me want to see it more. Also, all the pans seem to contain the same criticism that the film lacks some kind of obvious dramatic arc or core, which to continues to make me think that Soderbergh, thankfully, isn't delivering a standard, time plotted, emotionally didactic biopic. I see that as a huge positive.
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#46 Post by Polybius »

It's always entertaining when a critic thinks up a pseudo-clever title and writes a review to fit under it.
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#47 Post by rohmerin »

Tele 5, rubbish Spanish tv channel and film producer of this and other blockbusters such as El orfanato, Alatriste, Pan's laberynth or The other side of the bed, is bombing us with ads of the film anywhere.
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#48 Post by Cold Bishop »

Lucky you... How exactly is it being distributed in Spain?
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#49 Post by rohmerin »

1st part, El Argentino opens this 5th of september.

I can't believe it's spoken in Spanish, in this banana republic they are able to dub anything into Castilian.
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#50 Post by Jeff »

Polybius wrote:It's always entertaining when a critic thinks up a pseudo-clever title and writes a review to fit under it.
Indeed. I imagine that Howell has been sitting on "Havana's Gate" since he heard that Soderbergh was working on an epic Che biopic.
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