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Re: The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)

#326 Post by The Narrator Returns »

Some completely pedestrian and totally recycled musings on the film:
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- My interpretation of the ending is that Freddie has returned to the splendors of being an animal, but he finds little pleasure in it now that the Master has had his way with him. The Master has domesticated him. Plus, there's his processing of the English girl, which might suggest that he is the new Master.

- I like how Val Dodd, who stated that his father was "making it up as he goes along" is now his father's right-hand man, while the daughter appears to have been excommunicated.

- I've now seen two films in a row where Amy Adams strips down (the first was Trouble with the Curve, which I saw as a favor), and somehow the one where she gets completely naked shows less than the one where she merely gets down to her panties and a shirt.

- I think that Dodd almost wanted Freddie to go during the dirt bike scene. Notice the way he says "good boy," as if Dodd is finally letting Freddie be the animal he truly is.

- Adams almost seems like she is the true Master. She is the brains behind the organization and the one who keeps strict watch over the rules of The Cause.

- The Master almost seems bored with his own creation. His outburst at Laura Dern suggests that he could care less about the rules he has already established and the people who follow him.

- I don't think I've been more stunned by a scene in a film this year than when Adams' eyes changed color.

- I think that Freddie's elixir holds the secret to unleashing the inner animal, just like the Cause unlocks the secret to a perfect mind.

- Seriously, how great was Joaquin Phoenix in this movie? The Academy should just hand him his Oscar (and they shouldn't wimp out and nominate him as a supporting actor, as it often the case)
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#327 Post by warren oates »

The Narrator Returns wrote:
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- I don't think I've been more stunned by a scene in a film this year than when Adams' eyes changed color.
You're definitely right about this. I'd forgotten what a great moment this was.
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#328 Post by matrixschmatrix »

As far as the idea that The Master is bored with The Cause (God, the caps) and that's why he's changing things on the fly-
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The impression I get is that, 1984-like, the idea is to convince people to believe things that they knew are unbelievable nonsense, as once one accomplishes that one can never be dissuaded. Thus, The Master's disinterest in making the nonsense consistent, thus the idea of making Adams' eyes change color, thus the son's becoming a right hand man. If one gains control of what one believes, and can believe or disbelieve on command, than real control is achieved.
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#329 Post by Joe Buck »

Crazy thinking out loud.....going way too deep.....
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Dodd says he knows he's met Freddie somewhere before. Could it be a reference to other PTA films and that Dodd and Freddie have expienced past lives within the bodies of Plainview/HW or Jack Horner/Dirk Diggler? The process of remembering pre-birth, pre-cellular memories...would this not be the characters remembering pre-script and the things that came before? Are the characters in the film reincarnations of past characters in PTA films and thus attempting to connect with their past lives? The things that transpire in The Master echo events in other Anderson films too closely to go unnoticed.
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#330 Post by oldsheperd »

Just a quick question:
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What does Dodd mean when he tells Fred that Elizabeth is DCF?
Oh and, it is my firm belief that:
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Amy Adams' character is the true "Master" of the film.
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It refers to her being discommunicated.
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#332 Post by Roger Ryan »

Having seen the film yesterday (and avoiding all of the reviews on this thread until just now), I find myself in the same camp as "mfunk", "domino", "matrixschmatrix" and "Jeff" - thank you all for articulating why I think THE MASTER is a superb film and, perhaps, Anderson's best.
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In a similar way to how big business and religion were represented in THERE WILL BE BLOOD (a film that I found somewhat muddled in execution), THE MASTER shows us the collision between the self-destructive vulgarian and delusional seller of spiritual enlightenment, age-old archetypes that seemed to become more clearly defined in the American public consciousness in the decade following the one that the film takes place in. Freddy is absolutely the "beast" that Dodd describes; he is obsessed with sex and mind-altering cocktails while remaining mostly inarticulate and incapable of reflective thought. Dodd has a taste for some of the same self-destructive urges, but is self-conscious enough to believe he must rise above them. However, Dodd is such an insecure egotist that the only way he can make himself believe he is enlightened is to convince everyone else in his orbit to believe the lie as well. That Dodd relies on his current wife to provide the "sell" undermines his belief in himself even more. If Dodd can enlighten Freddie (and that essentially means brainwashing him to be subservient) than the triumph will be his own. Although Freddie is willing to submit himself to Dodd's program, it is not in his character to remain part of the lie. Dodd tests him in the desert (the vast expanse being the exact opposite of the space between the window and wall in the study) and Freddie chooses his freedom. What Dodd doesn't realize when Freddie returns to him in London is that the program has indeed made a small improvement in Freddie's life: he has become self-reflective enough to confront the loss of his mythical Doris as inevitable and to keep his emotions in check. Furthermore, however flawed and uncouth it may be, he, at last, makes a connection with a woman by using some of the program's language in a mocking manner; in effect, using Dodd's tools to successfully pursue the carnal preoccupation that represents his true character.

Two other things that struck me about the film:

1) Freddie acknowledges that it was a dream (the one in the cinema) that brought him to London and, yet, it is treated as if the request from Dodd was real. This seems to be part of a pattern where the film uses tenets found in biblical stories or in religion origin stories (other examples being the previously-mentioned desert and buried manuscript scenes).

2) While there is no concrete evidence in the film to support this, I wonder if Freddie's preoccupation with the female form and his ability with a camera suggest a possible career in pornographic magazines (which will begin to appear in great quantities only a few years after the film takes place)?
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#333 Post by Roger Ryan »

Joe Buck wrote:Crazy thinking out loud.....going way too deep.....
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Dodd says he knows he's met Freddie somewhere before. Could it be a reference to other PTA films and that Dodd and Freddie have expienced past lives within the bodies of Plainview/HW or Jack Horner/Dirk Diggler? The process of remembering pre-birth, pre-cellular memories...would this not be the characters remembering pre-script and the things that came before? Are the characters in the film reincarnations of past characters in PTA films and thus attempting to connect with their past lives? The things that transpire in The Master echo events in other Anderson films too closely to go unnoticed.
I think it is meant to signify that the struggle between the base and the enlightened has been going on for as long as humans have walked the earth.
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#334 Post by Joe Buck »

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2) While there is no concrete evidence in the film to support this, I wonder if Freddie's preoccupation with the female form and his ability with a camera suggest a possible career in pornographic magazines (which will begin to appear in great quantities only a few years after the film takes place)?
Very interesting hypothesis.
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#335 Post by Michael »

Saw The Master yesterday. I counted 18 people in the audience and by the midpoint of the film, half of the audience walked out.
The film is strangely hypnotic and there is not a moment that isn’t enthralling. There is just so much here to ponder and dwell on, it’s incredible. Pzadvance, domino, matrischmatrix. Jeff and mfunk nailed everything about the film and I couldn’t think of anything to add to their amazing comments. The film feels very Kubrickian but I was also reminded so much of Beau Travail with a thread or two of Safe.
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I couldn’t be more fascinated with Freddie’s immersing into the cult world and his break away from it. I’m atheist and to me, cult and religion are basically the same thing and I seem to piss off a lot of people when I say that every time. You could take the Catholic Church my family attends every Sunday and turn it into Dodd’s living room “cathedral” – it’s all the same thing. Sciencetology, Mormonism, Catholicism, Evangelicism, A Course in Miracles, Islam, etc – all the same thing. The root of them all is power and control They drink the milk shake in There is Blood but here they drink the kool aid.

I don’t understand some of the comments here saying that there is no arc to Freddie’s character. Hmm. Take a quick look at Michael Corleone – one of, if not THE, most famous character arcs in cinema: an Ivy League war hero turned to steel-hearted killer. Freddie is the opposite. This lonely drifter fresh out of the war has come a long way from violently molesting and fingering the Sand Lady in the crude sunlight to spooning and caressing the breasts of the Sand Lady in the soft, calm dusk.
The Master is soo beautiful to look at, every frame of it. I love the little poetic details sprinkled through, such as women’s dresses whipping in the sea winds. Every character has a bit of mysticism, tragedy and humor. I can’t remember the last time I saw film characters coming off more real and alive than those in The Master.

In all, a majestic film. However, after seeing Magnolia in 1999, I remember thinking that the director could never top this and I still feel this way.
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Re: The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)

#336 Post by kingofthejungle »

Ok, I finally got to see this, and after reading this entire thread (which, btw, has some of the most interesting discussion I have read in a while), I still find myself ambivalent about the film.

On the plus side, I really love Anderson's visual sensibility. He consistently creates breathtaking, inventive compositions that are compulsively watchable, and unlike lesser Kubrick disciples, he doesn't allow his pictorialism to become mere distraction -- his shot choices always provide valuable perspective into the on-screen proceedings.

The performances were generally very good, and there quite a few unforgettable set pieces.

Yet, I can't help but feel that the whole is lesser than the sum of it's parts for many of the reasons warren oates and Grand Illusion have already articulated. The film seemed to lack any form of narrative tension, either dramatic or psychological, and the structure was loose enough to be nearly invisible.
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Perhaps the film's biggest flaw is that we're never persuaded that Freddie becomes a true believer in 'The Cause' or Dodd's abilities. He just drifts from community to community, content to carry on his troubled existence within each one until he is run off or kicked out. This never really changes within the cause. Does he become a believer or does he just accommodate a new group of friends? Does he lash out at those who question Dodd out of loyalty to the cause or loyalty to this strange man who shows an interest in him? It isn't clear.

What is clear is that Freddie never sees his character (or lack thereof) as a problem, thus changing is never an imperative. Despite the tacked-on tragedy of lost love, and the endless repetition of cult ritual, we never really feel Freddie wanting to change or even hoping that he can, and this takes the sting out of the film's criticism of religion. If Freddie is not let down by religion, how is the film an effective criticism of it? If the characters presented not only don't change, but don't have their essences challenged, how is it an effective character study?
In the end, 'The Master' possesses everything a great film needs excepting a unifying core that binds all of it's disparate pieces. It's a painting rich in detail, masterful in technique, yet lacking a subject.
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#337 Post by mfunk9786 »

I question the validity of criticizing a film about a drifter because he just seems to drift a lot in it
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At any rate, I don't think we're meant to be persuaded that
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Freddie ever becomes a True Believer, as Freddie himself isn't- but I absolutely disagree with the notion that he never really wants to change. Why would he stay there for so long? Why is he so excited when Dodd pulls confessions about his aunt and so forth out? Why is he so immediately, violently angry when anyone questions The Cause? I think Freddie is fairly consumed with self-loathing- thus the constant annihilation-of-the-self drinking and chemical intake- and hopes very badly to find a better self he can have within the cult. The turning point is that first session with The Master, the one he imitates in bed at the end of the movie- something real seemed to be happening there, something that actually touched him and made him think he could reform and become worthy of what he'd chosen to regard as his real purpose, reclaiming his lost love. The fact that the quest itself was delusional and doomed to failure doesn't mean that Freddie didn't take it seriously.
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#339 Post by Roger Ryan »

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I think Freddie's outbursts to those who question Dodd are the result of his desire to truly be a disciple of the Cause. Being unable to commit himself to much previously in his life, he wants the Cause to be authentic - it's his new "girl" and he doesn't want disbeliever's hands touching her. He sees things simplistically enough that any dissent becomes unbearable. Ultimately, he breaks from the Cause when he believes he is strong enough to return to Doris. The ironic turn is that he has progressed enough through Dodd's brainwashing (or despite it) that he is able to weather the disappointment of Doris moving on with her life. In the end, his carnal pursuits are more important to him than the "enlightenment" Dodd and company offer.

The "sand lady" is that ephemeral thing (love, acceptance, religion, self-actualization) that we hold onto like an anchor, but which will only crumble away in time. Whatever that thing represents is our "master".
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#340 Post by mfunk9786 »

Roger Ryan wins the thread
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#341 Post by kingofthejungle »

matrixschmatrix wrote:
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Why would he stay there for so long? Why is he so excited when Dodd pulls confessions about his aunt and so forth out? Why is he so immediately, violently angry when anyone questions The Cause?
These are precisely the questions that I would argue aren't explored to satisfaction. Absent the desire to change, his actions seem wild and unmotivated - but we're never shown the desire, so we're left to hazard guesses about what drives him. Consider the following scene:
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1) Peggy (Amy Adams) gives Freddie the most literal of ultimatums about the need to change (either leave or stop drinking)
2) We cut directly to Freddie taking a flask out of his coat, casually pondering what he's been told, and taking a drink anyway.
3) He then tells Val 'Why don't you listen to your father, you might learn something') to which Val responds 'he's making it up as he goes along'
4) Then Freddie becomes very protective when the police arrive to arrest Dodd, and has a breakdown as he is arrested.

One could potentially read this as the falsity of the religion failing to change an addict's desperation, but you can also read it as a drunk who only desires to hide his condition from those who disapprove to remain an accepted part of this new community out of a simple desire to belong. I take his violent reactions as his form of personal loyalty to Dodd - he's trying to repay his friendship the only way he knows how.
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Being unable to commit himself to much previously in his life, he wants the Cause to be authentic - it's his new "girl" and he doesn't want disbeliever's hands touching her.
Are we really shown enough to say that with certainty though?
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He certainly didn't cohere in the Navy, but he seems to fit in well enough with the migrant workers until he accidentally(?) poisons one with one of his drinks. He's an ill fit for the glossy commercial world of the department store, but he manages a dalliance with the model, despite falling asleep (presumably from too much drink) before taking the relationship to a meaningful consummation. I think in order for 'The Cause' to sustain the film's existence (and it's criticism of religion), it would have to be seen (at least at first) as something different than the other experiences. Instead, it seems to be just another in an unending series of attempts at community destroyed by his self-indulgence - differentiated not by level of commitment or interest, but only by the time the director chooses to spend on it.

I do think your reading of the 'sand lady' is excellent, and undoubtedly what Anderson was promising thematically, I just don't think the rest of the film fulfills it to satisfaction.
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Roger Ryan wrote:
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I think Freddie's outbursts to those who question Dodd are the result of his desire to truly be a disciple of the Cause. Being unable to commit himself to much previously in his life, he wants the Cause to be authentic - it's his new "girl" and he doesn't want disbeliever's hands touching her. He sees things simplistically enough that any dissent becomes unbearable. Ultimately, he breaks from the Cause when he believes he is strong enough to return to Doris. The ironic turn is that he has progressed enough through Dodd's brainwashing (or despite it) that he is able to weather the disappointment of Doris moving on with her life. In the end, his carnal pursuits are more important to him than the "enlightenment" Dodd and company offer.

The "sand lady" is that ephemeral thing (love, acceptance, religion, self-actualization) that we hold onto like an anchor, but which will only crumble away in time. Whatever that thing represents is our "master".
Having just seen the film last night, I was trying to wrap some thoughts around the drifter and his journey. I felt it but couldn't find the right words but you said it all here! I totally agree with everything you said.
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Re: The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)

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mfunk9786 wrote:I question the validity of criticizing a film about a drifter because he just seems to drift a lot in it
Knight of the Jungle has already spoken quite well for himself. But I'd say it seems to me he's not criticizing the validity of the film but its success as drama and narrative.

It's hard to explain what The Master's missing to someone who likes it so much without going on an extended riff about the nature of dramatic storytelling, especially as it applies to extreme, troubled fringe characters like Freddie Quell. So I'll just go ahead and riff. (A lot of also this speaks to some of the comments I made in the thread on Steve McQueen's Shame).

So let's start by agreeing that whatever else Anderson is up to in The Master, whatever other layers of nuance, brilliance, tone, whatever -- he's still aiming to make a relatively mainstream dramatic narrative feature film (not a tone poem like Sokurov's Whispering Pages, an essay/fiction-hybrid like many of Godard's late films, an idea-driven blast of pure cinema like Alan Clarke's Elephant, etc.).

Almost every mainstream narrative feature film is about a protagonist (in some instances two or a whole group) actively trying to solve a particular problem. In these films, the story starts when something happens that invites the potential of improving or worsening the protagonist's situation and the protagonist makes a choice to act thereby getting closer to or further from his/her goal.

So the protagonist has to have a clear goal -- something he wants or needs. And the audience has to understand this, so that we can track his journey through the story, so that we understand what the stakes are when he takes action.

But I'd argue that it doesn't work like this in The Master for a couple of reasons. First, while we see the outward manifestations of Freddie's troubled inner life, Freddie's actual problem(s) -- objectively or subjectively isn't really ever offered up to audience. Second, Freddie's degree of self-awareness doesn't seem to allow him to experience something like that self-loathing that matrix claims is driving him to drink that hooch and puruse those women. The film has lead to some pretty interesting and powerful speculation about what all these motives might be or mean. And a lot of the film's biggest fans on this thread present some interesting answers to those questions. But a key question that remains is whether these answers are the ones intended by the film itself and either skillfully and ultra-subtly conveyed by the film (I'd argue not); or dramatized poorly or not at all; or withheld for other reasons conscious or unconscious by the filmmaker? And what effect does their absence have: Does it make this film a masterful act of non-handholding art cinema subtlety worth of the very greatest of the greats like, say, Bergman? Or does it turn the film into something less than it might have been with a stronger script?

It's not impossible to make an artistic exploration of a troubled or self-destructive character on the brink that still contains a compelling narrative. Some films that do this quite well: Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The Devil Probably, The Piano Teacher, Leaving Las Vegas, Young Adult. I'm not the biggest fan of all these films. I like the first four much more than the last two. But what they all have in common is a pretty excellent command of dramatic storytelling to hold the audience in a constant desire to know what's going to happen next by engaging our expectations about what the characters want/need, what problem they see themselves as trying to solve, what their current relative distance is from what they imagine to be their goal. And that's even if they are trying to "solve" their problems in exactly the wrong way, the way that will lead to further shame, alienation, bloodshed, loss of life and tragedy for all. The audience cares because we see that they care and we see what they're doing and are constantly striving to anticipate how it will all turn out. (Btw, Anderson's previous two features definitely take advantage of these ancient core storytelling tools.)

Somebody earlier compared Freddie Quell to Michael Corleone. In more ways than one this is apt. Freddie's not just the anti-Michael Corleone because he's drifting, unmoored and unheroic as a returning vet. But also because it's never clear what Freddie wants at the beginning of the film, so it's never clear what's happened to him when it's over. Nor do we ever learn much more about Freddie than we know within the first 10 minutes of meeting him. Contrast that with Michael Corleone, whose journey from heroic vet and good son on the straight and narrow to ruthless mafia don is crystal clear (but yet not simplistic!) and utterly tragic.

Or, once again to invoke Cassavetes, think of how much we learn about Nick and Mabel Longhetti from watching them throughout A Woman Under The Influence. Most of the story takes place in their home yet they've gone on an a epic journey vis-a-vis each other compared to the central duo in The Master, a film with many more locations and a much longer timespan.

Ten years ago, I might have agreed with mfunk's instinctive reaction above (Duh, the film is about drifters! Drifting's what they do!), but now I think, with good storytelling, it's actually possible to make something like The Master in such a way that it would please the fans it already has but make fans of the rest of us who look to narrative cinema for compelling stories about characters who change for better or for worse in ways that matter to them and therefore to us.

Anyone who wants to understand more about this concept ought to look on Google Books for page 192 of Jerome Stern's Making Shapely Fiction, for the entry on an idea he calls Position -- the way an audience tracks a character's arc through any given story. This was what lead to my epiphany about why certain art films about extreme characters work for me while others don't. Stern's example is simple and clear and you should all read the whole thing. But in a nutshell it's this: Say there's a character name Derwig who we establish is a depressed, anxious, troubled young man, lonely and on the brink, and a heavy drinker. If you choose to write about a day in which Derwig careens from bar to bar drinking heavily and remaining lonely and alienated -- no matter how amazing a writer you are -- all you're going to do is reiterate what we already know about him as a character. The real story about Derwig starts the moment something snaps him out of his current holding pattern. Otherwise you've got what's not even yet a character study, but at most a character sketch.

Which is actually a not inadequate approach for a literary short story. But in a feature length film -- especially a big feature film with big scenes between big actors in an epic format with a length over 2 hours, well, that's not nearly enough for me.
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Michael wrote:
Roger Ryan wrote:
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I think Freddie's outbursts to those who question Dodd are the result of his desire to truly be a disciple of the Cause. Being unable to commit himself to much previously in his life, he wants the Cause to be authentic - it's his new "girl" and he doesn't want disbeliever's hands touching her. He sees things simplistically enough that any dissent becomes unbearable. Ultimately, he breaks from the Cause when he believes he is strong enough to return to Doris. The ironic turn is that he has progressed enough through Dodd's brainwashing (or despite it) that he is able to weather the disappointment of Doris moving on with her life. In the end, his carnal pursuits are more important to him than the "enlightenment" Dodd and company offer.

The "sand lady" is that ephemeral thing (love, acceptance, religion, self-actualization) that we hold onto like an anchor, but which will only crumble away in time. Whatever that thing represents is our "master".
Is that all there is? Really?
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The whole journey of Quell's character boils down to: He learned just enough -- either because of or in spite of Dodd's "training" (which is it? doesn't it matter which?) -- to not completely freak out when his hometown sweetheart didn't wait half a decade for his promised return but moved on and made a real life with someone else. And then, in spite of whatever it is he "learned," almost immediately goes back to his previous pattern of behavior with no special awareness about why or what the consequences of that backslide into oblivion might be for his present or his future?
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#345 Post by mfunk9786 »

So PTA should have consulted a cookie cutter screenwriting book when writing this? Perish the thought!
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#346 Post by warren oates »

mfunk9786 wrote:So PTA should have consulted a cookie cutter screenwriting book when writing this? Perish the thought!
Ouch, mfunk! Though, fyi, the book I'm citing is written for literary fiction writers.

But, yeah, I guess I'll take my chances with all those screenwriting hacks I mentioned: Robert Bresson, Michael Haneke/Elefriede Jelenik, John Cassavetes, Ingmar Bergman, early Paul Schrader and the Paul Thomas Anderson who wrote Punch Drunk Love and There Will Be Blood.
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Why the need to put early in front of Paul Schrader?
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#348 Post by kingofthejungle »

Good post, warren oates.

I would be the last person to suggest that The Master had no merit, or was the work of a hack. It's full of brilliantly embroidered themes and inventive set pieces, but (as you point out) it lacks a compelling dramatic core. As the SF Chronicle's Mike LaSalle put it "The things that are great about "The Master" are those things only Paul Thomas Anderson could have brought to it, and the things that are bad are those any good screenwriter could have fixed." It seems almost trite to suggest, but it ultimately rings true.

After all, the drama in the reveal is the difference between revelation and mere truism (i.e. being confronted with a truth rather than presented with it). It can also be the difference in a great film and a noble experiment.
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#349 Post by wigwam »

i think some phony character arc would've ruined the film and it's all the more impressive that a stronger emotional arc than any of those other films listed is presented here w/o those obvious textbook techniques of conflict-resolution
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also, wasnt the last shot a flashback of that same beach scene and sand-woman, this time framing the anatomy to correspond with his actual master, the bottle?
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#350 Post by mfunk9786 »

Spoiler tags are a thing we have here
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