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[denti alligator]

Michael,

Could you post the rest of the films that got two or more votes, but that didn't make the final cut?

As for the 90s: how we will ever get any consensus on what single (or more) Simpsons episode to vote for?

Also: what do we do after compiling a list for the noughties (so far)? Start again with the silent era?

[Michael]

Michael,

Could you post the rest of the films that got two or more votes, but that didn't make the final cut?

Go to page 12 of this thread and look for that list which I updated a few moments ago. The list now has all the films that got at least 2 votes but didn't make the master list.

As for the 90s: how we will ever get any consensus on what single (or more) Simpsons episode to vote for?

No Simpsons. Not eligible. Sorry.

Also: what do we do after compiling a list for the noughties (so far)? Start again with the silent era?

We will continue with the 2000s before making the next round. Since we're halfway through the 2000s, vote for just 25 films (instead of the usual 50) and the top 50 films will make the master list.

[Michael]

1990s films voted so far:

2 Days in the Valley
12 Monkeys
Abraham's Valley
Affliction
After Life
The Age of Innocence
Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial Killer
Alice
All About My Mother
American Beauty
American Dream
Angels & Insects
Animal Nitrate (Suede video)
Anti-Extortion Woman
Any Given Sunday
Apollo 13
Arlington Road
Ashes of Time
Audition
Autumn Tale
The Baby of Macon
Bad Lieutenant
Baraka
Barton Fink
Beau Travail
Beauty and the Beast
Before Sunrise
Being John Malkovich
Benny's Video
Beseiged
The Big Lebrowski
Big Night
Black Cat, White Cat
The Blair Witch Project
Blue
The Blue Kite
Bob Roberts
Boiling Point
Boogie Nights
Bottle Rocket
Bound
Boys Don't Cry
Boyz 'n' the Hood
Braindead
Braveheart
Breaking the Waves
The Bridges of Madison County
A Brighter Summer Day
Bringing Out the Dead
Brother
Brother's Keeper
Bullet in the Head
Bullets Over Broadway
Calendar
Candyman
Cape Fear
Carla's Song
Carlito's Way
Caro Diario
Casino
The Castle
The Celebration
Celebrity
Cemetery Man
Central Station
Charisma
Children of Heaven
Chungking Express
The City of Lost Children
Clear and Present Danger
Clerks
Close to Eden
Close-Up
Come to Daddy (Aphex video)
Common People (Pulp video)
Conspirators of Pleasure
Cool World
Crash
Crimson Tide
The Crow
Crumb
The Crying Game
Cure
Cyclo
Dances with Wolves
Dark City
Darkness in Tallinn
Darwin
Days of Being Wild
Daytrippers
Dazed and Confused
Dead Alive
Dead Man
Deconstructing Harry
Delicatessen
Dick Tracy
Die Hard: With a Vengeance
Doom Generation
The Double Life of Veronique
The Dreamlife of Angels
Dreams
Drifting Clouds
Dust Devil
Eat Drink Men and Women
Ed Wood
Edward Scissorhands
El Mariachi
Election
Elizabeth
Europa
Everyone Says I Love You
eXistenZ
Exotica
Eyes Wide Shut
Face / Off
Fallen Angels
Farewell My Concubine
Fargo
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control
Faust
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Fight Club
Fireworks
Flirting
Flirting with Disaster
The Flower of My Secret
Flowers of Shanghai
Following
Foreign Land
Forrest Gump
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Friday
Funny Games
The Game
Gas, Food Lodging
Germany Year 90 Nine Zero
Germinal
Ghost Dog
Give It Away (Red Hot Chili Peppers video)
Glengarry Glen Ross
God's Comedy
The Godfather III
Gods and Monsters
Goodfellas
A Great Day in Harlem
Gremlins 2: A New Batch
The Grifters
Groundhog Day
Gummo
Hamlet
Happiness
Happy Together
Hard Boiled
He Got Game
Heat
Heavenly Creatures
Heidi Fleiss: Hollywood Madam
Henry and June
Henry Fool
High Heels
High School II
Histoire(s) du Cinema
The Hole
Hoop Dreams
House of Yes
Howards End
The Hudsucker Proxy
Humanite
The Hunt for Red October
Husbands and Wives
I Can't Sleep
I Hired a Contract Killer
I Shot Andy Warhol
The Ice Storm
The Idiots
Il Postino
In The Land of the Deaf
Indochine
The Insider
Insomnia
The Interview
Irma Vep
Jackie Brown
Jacob's Ladder
Jerry Maguire
Jesus' Son
JFK
Joga (Bjork video)
Ju Dou
Julien Donkey-Boy
Jurassic Park
Justify My Love (Madonna video)
Kansas City
Keiho
Khroustaliov, My Car!
Kika
Kingdom
Kristin Lavrasndattar
Kundun
L' Appartement
LA Confidential
LA Story
La Belle Noiseuse
La Ceremonie
La Femme Nikita
La Gloire de Mon Pere
La Promesse
Land and Freedom
The Last of the Mohicans
The Last Seduction
Le Chateau de Ma Mere
Le Sentinelle
A League of Their Own
Leaving Las Vegas
The Legend of Drunken Master
Leolo
Leon: The Professional
Lessons of Darkness
License to Live
Life and Nothing More
Life is Beautiful
The Limey
The Living End
Live Flesh
Living in Oblivion
Lone Star
Lost Highway
The Lover
The Lovers of the Arctic Circle
The Lovers on the Bridge
Maborosi
The Madness of King George
Magnolia
Mahjong
Malcolm X
Man Bites Dog
Maufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media
The Match Factory Girl
The Matrix
Mediterraneo
Men with Guns
Microcosmos
Miller's Crossing
Mississippi Masala
Molokh
A Moment of Innocence
Mother and Son
Mr. Death
My Best Friend's Wedding
My Name is Joe
My Own Private Idaho
My Voyage to Italy
Naked
Naked Lunch
The Nasty Girl
Natural Born Killers
New Dragon Inn
Night of the Living Dead
Night on Earth
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Ninja Scroll
Nixon
Not One Less
Nouvelle Vague
Office Space
Oh Woe is Me
Once Upon a Time in China
One False Move
Open Your Eyes
Out of Sight
Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills
Passage Through: A Ritual
Pecker
Perdita Durango
Perfect Blue
A Perfect World
Personal Journey Through American Movies
Pi
The Piano
The Pillow Books
The Player
Pola X
Police Story III: Supercop
Ponette
Postmen in the Mountains
Premonitions Following an Evil Deed
Pretty Woman
Pride and Prejudice
Primary Colors
The Prince of Homburg
Princess Mononoke
Priscilla Queen of the Desert
Proof
Prospero's Books
Pulp Fiction
The Puppetmaster
Raise the Red Lantern
Ratcatcher
Red
The Red Squirrel
Regret to Inform
The Remains of the Day
Reservoir Dogs
Rhapsody in August
Ringu
The River
A River Runs Through It
Romeo + Juliet
Rosetta
Run Lola Run
Rushmore
Safe
Same Old Song
Savage Nights
Saving Private Ryan
Scent of Green Papaya
Schizopolis
Schlinder's List
Scream
Searching for Bobby Fischer
Secrets & Lies
See the Sea
Sense and Sensibility
Serial Mom
Se7en
Shadows and Fog
Shaghai Triad
Shakespeare in Love
The Shawshank Redemption
Short Cuts
Show Me Love
The Silence of the Lambs
Silent All These Years (Tori Amos Video)
Simple Men
A Simple Plan
Slacker
Sleepy Hollow
Sling Blade
Smoke Signals
Smoking / No Smoking
Sneakers
Sonatine
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut
The Spanish Prisoner
Spectres of the Spectrum
Speed
Starship Troopers
State of Grace
The Sting of Death
The Stolen Children
The Story of Qiu Ju
The Straight Story
Strange Days
Surviving Desire
The Sweet Hereafter
Swingers
Take Care of Your Scarf, Tatiana
The Talented Mr. Ripley
Taste of Cherry
Taxi Blues
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Tetsuo II: Body Hammer
That Thing You Do!
Thelma and Louise
Thieves
The Thin Red Line
Those Who Love Me Can Take the Train
Three Kings
Through the Olive Trees
Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!
Tierra
Time Indefinite
Time Regained
Titus
To Live
Topsy-Turvy
Toto the Hero
Toy Story
Toy Story 2
Trainspotting
Trouble in the Image
True Romance
The Truman Show
Trust
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
Twin Peaks: The Pilot
Un Coeur en Hiver
Underground
Unforgiven
Unzipped
The Usual Suspects
Van Gogh
Vanya on 42nd Street
Velvet Goldmine
The Virgin Suicides
Vive L'Amour
Waiting for Guffman
Wallace & Gromit: A Close Shave
Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers
Washington Square
The Wedding Banquet
Welcome to the Dollhouse
When We Were Kings
White
The White Balloon
Wild at Heart
Wild Reeds
The Wind Will Carry Us
The Wings of the Dove
The Winslow Boy
The Wonderful, Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl
World of Glory
Year of the Horse

[backstreetsbackalright]

*cough*cough*TheLastBolshevik*cough*cough*

Ahem.

[zedz]

Crikey! Are we onto the 90s already? I've just looked at my "short list" (films that, off the top of my head, should be in the top 50) and it's about 100 films, so this will be a challenge!

[mikeohhh]

Also: what do we do after compiling a list for the noughties (so far)? Start again with the silent era?

best films of all time list using every film placing in all the previous polls as the nominees?

[Michael]

best films of all time list using every film placing in all the previous polls as the nominees?

Of course not.

[kieslowski_67]

Notable misses from the current 90s list (in no particular order):

wild reeds
dream life of angels
postmen in the mountain
age of innocence
Van Gogh
Lovers of the artic circle
rosetta
L' Appartment
A brighter summer day
Savage nights
Eat drink men and women
Slience of the lambs
The wind will carry us

[Michael]

I will continue updating the 90s list (above) every time I receive a list or two from you folks.

[souvenir]

Not to be redundant, but music videos are eligible, right?

I didn't see any in the 80s list or this preliminary list of 90s that people voted for.

[backstreetsbackalright]

Not to be redundant, but music videos are eligible, right?

I didn't see any in the 80s list or this preliminary list of 90s that people voted for.

They are so totally eligible. There were none in the 80s list because haters fail to recognize the importance of Express Yourself.

[Lino]

For me it was Running up that Hill.

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[flambeur]

Not to be redundant, but music videos are eligible, right?

I didn't see any in the 80s list or this preliminary list of 90s that people voted for.

There were music videos submitted before you know who edited the
prelim. 80's list.. Just....Human Behaviour

[Michael]

Music videos submitted for the 80s list:

Express Yourself (Madonna)
Running Up That Hill (Kate Bush)
Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel)

[denti alligator]

No Simpsons. Not eligible. Sorry.

Why not? For the 90s: don't forget The Suspended Step of the Stork and Institute Benjamenta, or This Dream People Call Human Life. Nor should you forget the Wallace & Grommit shorts.

[Andre Jurieu]

No Simpsons. Not eligible. Sorry.

Why not?

They covered the inclusion of TV a while back. Check Page 6 and Page 9 for the discussion.

We never really had to deal with this question before since television was not really a factor in the earlier lists. We've been pretty liberal with qualifications, though, so I think it's fair game. Let's draw the line at commercials, though, but I think music videos will be fair game when the '80s list rolls around.

TV movies (even those run over successive evenings) and TV specials are okay. No epsiodic television. Of course, this is going to make everyone's list-making even more difficult, and I pity the poor person stuck with compiling the lists for the '70s, '80s, and '90s (and '00s, if we do that).

Well, we can't assume that. I'm sure a lot of people would have voted for things like The Twilight Zone if they had the option. Since they didn't, and since we don't really want to change the rules in the middle of the project: no episodic TV. Maybe we'll have a TV version of this in the future.

[dekadetia]

Check Page 6 and Page 9 for the discussion.

I think this thread is beginning to confuse the hell out of everyone. Is there any way we can have a locked sticky thread (updated just by mods when needed) which would just contain the "official" lists, guidelines and due dates, and then another thread for all the other discussion? Just a thought.

[ola t]

1990s films voted so far:
[...]
Kingdom
[...]

Is that the first series only, or lumped together with The Kingdom II? (I'd personally prefer to keep the two series separate -- they're very different in tone.)

Can I assume that Premonitions Following an Evil Deed, the David Lynch segment from Lumiere et Compagnie, is eligible on its own? And does anyone know if the Patrice Leconte segment from the same film -- the one where the train doesn't stop at La Ciotat station -- has a name?

[Michael]

Kingdom (1994) and Kingdom II (1997) are to be treated separately.

Premonitions Following an Evil Deed is certainly eligible on its own.

[denti alligator]

Premonitions Following an Evil Deed is certainly eligible on its own.

Is that what it's called? Listed as "Lumiere" at imdb and on Lynch's Short Films DVD. I'll certainly be voting for it.

[Michael]

A quick reminder:

The deadline for the 90s list is three weeks from today - November 30th.

Also take a look at the list on the previous page. Many new "voted-for" films added.

[Brian Oblivious]

Was there a verdict on the Twin Peaks pilot? Is it considered episodic television and therefore ineligible?

[Michael]

I would love for the utterly stunning Twin Peaks pilot to be included however it's a part of the TV series. So that means it's not eligible.

However, David Lynch's film Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992) is perfectly eligible.

[Michael]

The Twin Peaks pilot is tricky since it was considered a stand-alone TV movie in some non-North American markets. I'll defer to Michael, though, since he is in charge of this particular list.

Oh okay. I didn't know about the Twin Peaks pilot being the stand-alone TV movie in other countries. Awesome. Go for it! I'm actually happy about that...I personally think the pilot can stand alone as one of the greatest things ever created for television. But make sure you put down Twin Peaks: The Pilot so I don't get it confused with Fire Walk With Me.

[zedz]

Plus, the Twin Peaks pilot screened in 35 mm in some film festivals (which is where I first saw it). This version was the real pilot with the cold ending, not the cryptic red room coda that was added to later video releases.