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jindianajonz
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Re: Kino

#2676 Post by jindianajonz »

I feel like they should put "Warning: " in front of that top blurb
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Re: Kino

#2677 Post by captveg »

criterion10 wrote:Anyone else worried about the transfer being approved by Storaro?
I don't see him cropping a 1.66:1 film to 2.00:1, but kookier things have happened. (I can easily see the release being 1.78:1).
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domino harvey
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#2678 Post by domino harvey »

He only cuts films down from 'Scope
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Re: Kino

#2679 Post by zedz »

But if the 2:1 ratio is magical, why would it only be magical if you butcher the sides of an image and not the top and bottom?

And why don't you like magic, domino? :cry:
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Re: Kino

#2680 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

He approved the Arrow transfer and that was 1.66:1.
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captveg
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#2681 Post by captveg »

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:He approved the Arrow transfer and that was 1.66:1.
Probably going to be practically identical then.
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Re: Kino

#2682 Post by Class316 »

Does anyone know why KINO chose to put English intertitles in Metropolis instead of the original German? Seems kinda odd to me.
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#2683 Post by knives »

There's a lot of reasons, the most obvious being that a large section of their demographic prefers it and they don't want to spend the time authoring two versions of a movie. Supposedly there's something about television contracts, but I don't buy it personally.
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#2684 Post by Class316 »

knives wrote:There's a lot of reasons, the most obvious being that a large section of their demographic prefers it and they don't want to spend the time authoring two versions of a movie.
I find it hard to believe that most people who would actually buy a KINO release would prefer English intertitles over the original German ones with English subs.

I suppose when I get a blu ray drive I'll buy the MOC UK version so I can play it.
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#2685 Post by knives »

I assume they're not buying a Kino release so much as buying a Blu of a genre film they've heard of before.
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#2686 Post by Class316 »

knives wrote:I assume they're not buying a Kino release so much as buying a Blu of a genre film they've heard of before.
KINO release, Metropolis release, whatever the case my main point was that anyone who would want a 1927 silent movie would most likely want it in its original form. It doesn't exactly have the type of fan base of a summer blockbuster movie.
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Re: Kino

#2687 Post by swo17 »

Metropolis arguably has more appeal among mainstream audiences than it does for silent aficionados.
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#2688 Post by Class316 »

swo17 wrote:Metropolis arguably has more appeal among mainstream audiences than it does for silent aficionados.
To be honest, outside of Internet forums I know of nobody that knows what that is.
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#2689 Post by swo17 »

For years growing up, long before I got seriously into film, that and Caligari were probably the only silent films of which I was aware.
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#2690 Post by MongooseCmr »

I think the cutoff line for public awareness of silent film ends with Chaplin nowadays
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#2691 Post by Gregory »

Huge numbers of people who aren't cinephiles have an awareness of (if not intimate familiarity with) one or more of the following: Birth of a Nation, Nosferatu, the work of Buster Keaton, Le Voyage Dans la Lune, Metropolis, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, Nanook of the North, Un Chien Andalou. (I was made to watch that last one in high school in the midst of a culturally retarded public school education!) Those are easily up there with Chaplin's true silents such as The Gold Rush and The Kid, though Chaplin and the Tramp may be more familiar in everyday iconography. People around the world recognize the Tramp as a film character but they haven't necessarily seen any of the silent films.
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#2692 Post by captveg »

Gregory wrote:Huge numbers of people who aren't cinephiles have an awareness of (if not intimate familiarity with) one or more of the following: Birth of a Nation, Nosferatu, the work of Buster Keaton, Le Voyage Dans la Lune, Metropolis, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, Nanook of the North, Un Chien Andalou. (I was made to watch that last one in high school in the midst of a culturally retarded public school education!) Those are easily up there with Chaplin's true silents such as The Gold Rush and The Kid, though Chaplin and the Tramp may be more familiar in everyday iconography. People around the world recognize the Tramp as a film character but they haven't necessarily seen any of the silent films.
Pretty much. I'd add Safety Last! to the list if only for the iconic single image of Lloyd on the clock face.
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#2693 Post by knives »

captveg wrote: Pretty much. I'd add Safety Last! to the list if only for the iconic single image of Lloyd on the clock face.
This reminds me of a smug classmate years ago who gleamed with the pride of a thousand suns and smirk of a million shits eaten, "oh the guy who hung from the clock," when the teacher started a lecture on Buster Keaton. The teacher deadpanned, "No."
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#2694 Post by jheez »

Some of my (non cinephile) friends have seen Metropolis, and it's probably the only silent they've seen. Most sci-fi nerds i know have also seen it. I doubt these folks would have sat through it if it was silent AND had subtitles. Kind of disappointing Metropolis is one of the first silent a lot of people see. I've always found it a bit of a bore. So many other better silents out there
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#2695 Post by captveg »

knives wrote:
captveg wrote:Pretty much. I'd add Safety Last! to the list if only for the iconic single image of Lloyd on the clock face.
This reminds me of a smug classmate years ago who gleamed with the pride of a thousand suns and smirk of a million shits eaten, "oh the guy who hung from the clock," when the teacher started a lecture on Buster Keaton. The teacher deadpanned, "No."
Ha! Awesome.
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#2696 Post by Red Screamer »

MongooseCmr wrote:I think the cutoff line for public awareness of silent film ends with Chaplin nowadays
knives wrote:
captveg wrote: Pretty much. I'd add Safety Last! to the list if only for the iconic single image of Lloyd on the clock face.
This reminds me of a smug classmate years ago who gleamed with the pride of a thousand suns and smirk of a million shits eaten, "oh the guy who hung from the clock," when the teacher started a lecture on Buster Keaton. The teacher deadpanned, "No."
In my high school film course, my teacher argued that The Circus was an obscure film no one had heard of and then mistook Lloyd on the clock for Keaton. And he was teaching the class. I felt bad for my classmates who were being introduced to these films by that buffoon
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#2697 Post by MongooseCmr »

knives wrote:
captveg wrote:
Superswede11 wrote:
Pretty much. I'd add Safety Last! to the list if only for the iconic single image of Lloyd on the clock face.
This reminds me of a smug classmate years ago who gleamed with the pride of a thousand suns and smirk of a million shits eaten, "oh the guy who hung from the clock," when the teacher started a lecture on Buster Keaton. The teacher deadpanned, "No."
In my high school film course, my teacher argued that The Circus was an obscure film no one had heard of and then mistook Lloyd on the clock for Keaton. And he was teaching the class. I felt bad for my classmates who were being introduced to these films by that buffoon
I had a teacher who showed us Modern Times in high school and said Chaplin never did sound films because he was embarrassed by his voice, then later talked about The Great Dictator. I don't even understand how you mess up like that
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#2698 Post by TMDaines »

I'm just so glad we have Eureka over here and not Kino. Watching Metropolis in the cinema on a huge near-IMAX-size screen, with the proper intertitles, was a great experience.
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Re: Kino

#2699 Post by swo17 »

MongooseCmr wrote:I had a teacher who showed us Modern Times in high school and said Chaplin never did sound films because he was embarrassed by his voice, then later talked about The Great Dictator. I don't even understand how you mess up like that
I think the point is that the character of the Tramp never spoke on film. Perhaps you missed this subtle distinction, or your teacher neglected to make it?
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Re: Kino

#2700 Post by MongooseCmr »

No, it was definitely something about his voice being squeaky and unpleasant.

This is all off topic anyway
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