The Lists Project

An ongoing project to survey the best films of individual decades, genres, and filmmakers
Post Reply
Message
Author
scotty
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:04 am

#326 Post by scotty »

Do Martin Scorsese's Personal Journey Through American Movies and My Voyage to Italy qualify?
User avatar
kieslowski_67
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:39 pm
Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland

#327 Post by kieslowski_67 »

scotty wrote:Do Martin Scorsese's Personal Journey Through American Movies and My Voyage to Italy qualify?
"My voyage to Italy" is great but I believe that it does not count as a feature film since more than 95% of the films are comprised of footage of the works of the 5 great Italian directors. A collection of great works from Rosellini, De Sica, Visconti, Antonioni, and Fellini will easily push it to #1 ranking of the 90s list, or even possibly the greatest movie of all time.
User avatar
Andre Jurieu
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:38 pm
Location: Back in Milan (Ind.)

#328 Post by Andre Jurieu »

So does that disqualify Godard's Histoire(s) du cinéma?

I think either Scorsese doc should qualify for inclusion. Even if they use footage from other films, Scorsese is using the footage in a different context and for different purposes. The work thus becomes a distinct entity of its own, very much separate from the works of the directors he is referencing.
User avatar
Michael
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:09 pm

#329 Post by Michael »

Personal Journey Through American Movies and My Voyage to Italy are absolutely eligible. So is Histoire(s) du Cinema.

I have a question about Histoire(s) du Cinema since I've never seen it. According to IMDB, it comes in pieces so should all the pieces be counted separately or should Histoire(s) du Cinema be counted as whole? I recieved a list that listed just Une Vague Nouvelle which is a part of Histoire(s) du Cinema.
User avatar
backstreetsbackalright
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:49 pm
Location: 313

#330 Post by backstreetsbackalright »

Michael wrote:I have a question about Histoire(s) du Cinema since I've never seen it. According to IMDB, it comes in pieces so should all the pieces be counted separately or should Histoire(s) du Cinema be counted as whole? I recieved a list that listed just Une Vague Nouvelle which is a part of Histoire(s) du Cinema.
Is that different from Godard's Nouvelle Vague? Nouvelle Vague is definitely a film on its own.
User avatar
Michael
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:09 pm

#331 Post by Michael »

I did a bit research. Lets treat Histoire(s) du Cinema (1997-98) as a whole and Godard also did a film called Nouvelle Vague (1990) which is to be treated as a different film.
stroszeck
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:42 am

#332 Post by stroszeck »

BLASPHEMY!......Where is SANTA SANGRE?!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
Hrossa
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:11 pm
Location: Prince Edward Island
Contact:

#333 Post by Hrossa »

stroszeck wrote:BLASPHEMY!......Where is SANTA SANGRE?!!!!!!!!!
I only wish I knew what religion the blasphemy was against.
User avatar
Michael
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:09 pm

#334 Post by Michael »

You have two more weeks from today to submit your 90s list.

Up to now:

myself, pauling, flyonthewall2983, yoshimori, kieslowski_67, lord_clyde

Also many new "vote-for" films added to the list on the previous page.
User avatar
Michael
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:09 pm

#335 Post by Michael »

For your consideration:

Beau Travail

Please.
User avatar
kieslowski_67
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:39 pm
Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland

#336 Post by kieslowski_67 »

I will try to lobby for:

Techine's "Wild Reeds"

There is a reason that this film was able to beat out a masterpiece like "Three colors: Red" for the top honor at the Cesars in early 1995. It's truly a remarkable film, and Studio Canal gets two thumbs up for providing a pristine transfer of this marvelous film.
Last edited by kieslowski_67 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:14 pm, edited 3 times in total.
User avatar
Michael
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:09 pm

#337 Post by Michael »

kieslowsk_67, thanks for reminding me about Wild Reeds. I will check it out sometime this weekend.
User avatar
kieslowski_67
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:39 pm
Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland

#338 Post by kieslowski_67 »

And before I shut up, please also consider "The Double Life of Veronique".

The movie has been released on DVD in Italy. MK2 2D9 version is coming next February. For those who vote for "three colors", please also consider "double life of Veronique".
User avatar
backstreetsbackalright
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:49 pm
Location: 313

#339 Post by backstreetsbackalright »

Haven't seen Wild Reeds yet, and unfortunately, I probably won't have time to before the lists are due. Hopefully I can catch Thieves though.
User avatar
kieslowski_67
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:39 pm
Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland

#340 Post by kieslowski_67 »

backstreetsbackalright wrote:Haven't seen Wild Reeds yet, and unfortunately, I probably won't have time to before the lists are due. Hopefully I can catch Thieves though.
Techine made 3 master films in the 90s, and wild reeds>thieves>my favorite season.

Also want to make a special recommendation on his rarely seen "J'embrasse pas". Wonderful character development. Got to see Beart play a sultry prostitute. The ending is powerful and truly unfogettable.
User avatar
colinr0380
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:30 pm
Location: Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, UK

#341 Post by colinr0380 »

Michael wrote:For your consideration:

Beau Travail
I'm seriously considering it and I think I will try and watch it again before handing in my list. Check out The Work of Director: Jonathan Glazer - I kept wondering when watching Beau Travail why Denis Lavant looked so familiar and found out why seeing him in the Stella Artois Jean de Florette-styled ads and the Radiohead video! It seemed that for a few years you couldn't get away from those adverts on UK television!
User avatar
backstreetsbackalright
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:49 pm
Location: 313

#342 Post by backstreetsbackalright »

colinr0380 wrote:I kept wondering when watching Beau Travail why Denis Lavant looked so familiar and found out why seeing him in the Stella Artois Jean de Florette-styled ads and the Radiohead video! It seemed that for a few years you couldn't get away from those adverts on UK television!
At this very moment, we can't esacpe them in Seattle (and maybe the rest of the States - I dunno). Landmark Theaters presently run them before almost every feature.
User avatar
flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

#343 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

*looking at the music videos listed so far that have been voted*

No "November Rain"??? :P
User avatar
backstreetsbackalright
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:49 pm
Location: 313

#344 Post by backstreetsbackalright »

flyonthewall2983 wrote:No "November Rain"??? :P
There were moments when I actually considered it. I do have very powerful memories of it, I'm not ashamed to admit, but it's far too overwrought to justify serious consideration on my list in the here and now. Unlike Express Yourself (which I can't stop mentioning made my 80s list). Björk figures heavily in my 90s list considerations. Both Bachelorette and All Is Full Of Love are gloriously realized music videos that bring much to the table not contained in the song's themselves. Really I seperate those music videos (music + video, not just the visual aspect) from the songs they promoted.
User avatar
Andre Jurieu
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:38 pm
Location: Back in Milan (Ind.)

#345 Post by Andre Jurieu »

backstreetsbackalright wrote: I do have very powerful memories of it, I'm not ashamed to admit ...
I'm not ashamed to admit I have powerful memories of Stephanie Seymour's legs.

I'm a bit surprised Radiohead's Karma Police and Just haven't been mentioned at all. Surprised, but not shocked.
User avatar
flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

#346 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

There are a few Nine Inch Nails I could think of too, Closer and The Perfect Drug would be perfect choices.
User avatar
zedz
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:24 pm

#347 Post by zedz »

The two music videos on my list at the moment (things change fast around here) are The Chemical Brothers' "Let Forever Be" (Michel Gondry) and Brian Eno's "Ali Click" (Lefdup / Flash / Eno). I guess I must have been frightened by a kaleidoscope as a small child.
User avatar
backstreetsbackalright
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:49 pm
Location: 313

#348 Post by backstreetsbackalright »

zedz wrote:The two music videos on my list at the moment (things change fast around here) are The Chemical Brothers' "Let Forever Be" (Michel Gondry) and Brian Eno's "Ali Click" (Lefdup / Flash / Eno). I guess I must have been frightened by a kaleidoscope as a small child.
I'm not familiar with the Eno video, but I love Eno. What's it like?
User avatar
souvenir
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:20 pm

#349 Post by souvenir »

Looking at the titles voted for so far, I am a little stunned that none of the Wallace & Gromit shorts are on there. I was trying to limit myself to just one of them and it seems that, going just on the submitted lists, no one else feels any are worthy.
User avatar
backstreetsbackalright
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:49 pm
Location: 313

#350 Post by backstreetsbackalright »

souvenir wrote:Looking at the titles voted for so far, I am a little stunned that none of the Wallace & Gromit shorts are on there. I was trying to limit myself to just one of them and it seems that, going just on the submitted lists, no one else feels any are worthy.
A good point well raised. To the contributors' defense(s), those films are so timeless that it's difficult to remember that they emerged from a particular decade. I forgot about them myself....
Post Reply