The Hateful Eight (Quentin Tarantino, 2015)

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movielocke · #101 Post by **movielocke** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:00 am

Edit, hmm reading that abovelink I saw the pic of the embargo notice. I didn't see one myself So I'll just edit this out and repost it later.

Oedipax · #102 Post by **Oedipax** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:07 pm

Does anyone know if there is a list yet of cities that will be showing the 70mm roadshow version? Couldn't find anything on the official site and Google just turns up stories about the fact that it's happening.

Ribs · #103 Post by **Ribs** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:42 pm

in70mm has a tentative list - it's by no means complete though.

I'm mostly shocked to find out it's playing at a major multiplex here in DC in addition to where I'd been planning on seeing it. Who'd have guessed?

#104 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:43 pm

You don't seriously want to see any movie at the Gallery Place Regal Cinemas though, unless you want to hear audience interaction!

Ishmael · #105 Post by **Ishmael** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:23 pm

domino harvey wrote:You don't seriously want to see any movie at the Gallery Place Regal Cinemas though, unless you want to hear audience interaction!

Last time I saw a movie at Gallery Place, the picture had been zoomed in a bit, which I realized immediately since parts of the opening credits were cropped off. So, yeah, maybe not the best place to see a film.

Ribs · #106 Post by **Ribs** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:57 pm

This might be better suited to the movie theater experiences thread but when I saw Spotlight there (at an advanced screening, to boot), some guy was asking his friend to look up the plot and explain (for the entire theater to hear) everything that happens before the movie started so he wouldn't be confused. ?!? I can kind of understand it if it was a movie people had been buzzing as confusing but you cannot possibly get more straightforward and nuts'n'bolts plot-wise than that movie.

It was a 4K DCP which was nice but everything about that theater tells me they'd somehow screw up actual proper film projection.

#107 Post by **mfunk9786** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:30 pm

AFI Silver is beautiful (if I have any complaint about the theater they'll likely be showing this in [same one they screened The Master in], it's that the very large screen is surprisingly made to look a little small by the gigantic auditorium it's in) and I think we'll be opting to drive down there rather than up to NYC with all those tolls. Leave it to the dinosaur arthouse theaters in Philadelphia to opt out of spending any money to screen this. Tempted by primary Village East auditorium though, that is one of the more unique (dark, vertical, and lush) rooms to see a movie in anywhere.

Ribs · #108 Post by **Ribs** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:59 pm

Yes, the AFI is such a wonderful theater with genuinely wonderful programming and I appreciate it so much. The theater being so huge is wonderful; genuinely, sitting in the first row is no less an experience than in the middle of the auditorium, every seat equally a contender for the best in the house. Considering how otherwise dwindling the DC market has been with regards to rep. programming and just generally smaller more adventurous theaters I can't sing its praises enough.

(I am absolutely livid that the Landmark opened a new five-screen art-house theater, in DC itself, by loading Steve Jobs onto all five screens for the entire first two weeks, replacing it with even more major studio prestige releases whereas James White was relegated only to the very distant Bethesda Arclight)

I am just hoping they keep Hateful Eight running in 70mm for several weeks past when it's listed; I'm unsure if I'll be able to make it over the holiday itself.

hearthesilence · #109 Post by **hearthesilence** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:21 pm

A friend was kind enough to get me into a preview screening of this over the weekend. I pretty much hated it. I'll get into more details when reviews start pouring in, but there was really little of anything that I liked about the film. I have mixed feelings to varying degrees about most of his films, but this and Death Proof left me with no desire to revisit either ever again.

EDIT: Any similarities to Agatha Christie and especially John Ford are very superficial.

Drucker · #110 Post by **Drucker** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:59 pm

Was the visual aspect of it noteworthy at all?

Also, Ehrlich's tweet is weird, wouldn't an "early John Ford film" be ...uh...his silent work? Probably not the comparison he's going for I assume.

knives · #111 Post by **knives** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:11 pm

He clearly means early in his period when he was famous so probably about '39-'43 or so. That said I'm sure his influences are more along the lines of The Fate of Lee Khan and Breakheart Pass.

hearthesilence · #112 Post by **hearthesilence** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:26 pm

Drucker wrote:Was the visual aspect of it noteworthy at all?

Also, Ehrlich's tweet is weird, wouldn't an "early John Ford film" be ...uh...his silent work? Probably not the comparison he's going for I assume.

70mm will look better compared to anything shot in 35mm, no doubt about that. There are a handful moments that looked particularly nice in 70. Richardson is an excellent DP and there are a few other moments where he added some particularly nice touches in the lighting. But to be brutally frank, most of the film wasn't visually noteworthy.

This sort of ties in with your latter remark regarding Ehrlich's tweet - as pure cinema or visual storytelling in the spirit of silent filmmaking at its height, there is nothing in the film that captures that.

John Cope · #113 Post by **John Cope** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:12 pm

hearthesilence wrote:A friend was kind enough to get me into a preview screening of this over the weekend. I pretty much hated it. I'll get into more details when reviews start pouring in, but there was really little of anything that I liked about the film. I have mixed feelings to varying degrees about most of his films, but this and Death Proof left me with no desire to revisit either ever again.

I've got to be honest and say that since I consider Death Proof to be his best film this really gives me hope.

hearthesilence · #114 Post by **hearthesilence** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:35 pm

Going by those Twitter reviews, it already has its fans, so I doubt it'll be universally reviled.

movielocke · #115 Post by **movielocke** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:10 pm

Drucker wrote:Was the visual aspect of it noteworthy at all?

Also, Ehrlich's tweet is weird, wouldn't an "early John Ford film" be ...uh...his silent work? Probably not the comparison he's going for I assume.

Yes, the exteriors are as stunning as any 70mm classic and the interiors use dense left-right compositions and deep z axis space to full effect to make a small space feel huge or claustrophobic as needed. The old/refurbished lenses give it a pretty great look very different from the master or interstellar (think of how different the good German with 1930s lenses looks from good night and good luck).

bearcuborg · #116 Post by **bearcuborg** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:37 pm

I feel silly for posting here, having not seen the film - but I haven't cared for anything he's made since Jackie Brown. Everything since has been mostly awful, and I stopped caring about Richardson's cinematography since the late 90's. I wish Quentin would make movies for adults again....

That said, his work since JB has had it's moments. And I'll always go to see whatever new film he makes. In particular, I'll see this one in whatever theater best suits 70mm as I fly for free thanks to a friend who works for AA.

Cremildo · #117 Post by **Cremildo** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:58 pm

bearcuborg wrote:I feel silly for posting here, having not seen the film - but I haven't cared for anything he's made since Jackie Brown. Everything since has been mostly awful, and I stopped caring about Richardson's cinematography since the late 90's. I wish Quentin would make movies for adults again....

Nothing silly in posting a contrarian opinion to get some attention, all the while obliquely calling anyone who might think differently a child.

Drucker · #118 Post by **Drucker** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:23 am

There was really nothing wrong with what bearcuborg said.

#119 Post by **cdnchris** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:44 am

Cremildo wrote:
bearcuborg wrote:I feel silly for posting here, having not seen the film - but I haven't cared for anything he's made since Jackie Brown. Everything since has been mostly awful, and I stopped caring about Richardson's cinematography since the late 90's. I wish Quentin would make movies for adults again....
Nothing silly in posting a contrarian opinion to get some attention, all the while obliquely calling anyone who might think differently a child.

What are you talking about? You've been consistently misreading posts or injecting something not there into them and trying to pick fights for months now. I get you're trying to show everyone here how snobby they are but actually post something useful or don't bother.

Cremildo · #120 Post by **Cremildo** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:54 am

I apologize.

I forgot that being a conceited a-hole is actually de rigueur on these boards.

#121 Post by **cdnchris** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:56 am

Well, you're doing a good job of it, so welcome.

EDIT
Look, you've been consistently attacking people for things they aren't saying. I get if you're passionate about things and I don't mind people having different opinions about things (I like all of Tarantino's stuff, so I don't agree with him, either) and discussing it, but when you attack someone for something they didn't even say that's not acceptable and doesn't lead to any discussion or help anything, and it doesn't make you look all that great either. If you don't like it here, again, why bother? All I can think is you're trying to show people here they're a bunch of snobs and I don't really understand why anyone would bother doing that, especially when most people here wouldn't even care.

I apologize for my outburst, but really, please stop.

bearcuborg · #122 Post by **bearcuborg** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:57 am

Well, Crem's shtick aside - I'll say this, I'm as excited to see this in a great big theater. So I'll be checking this thread for everyone's take on the best possible venue.

The last time I saw something in 70mm was Samsara, then before that was Playtime in 2004 or so. I didn't make the effort to see Avatar in 70mm, which I still regret.

movielocke · #123 Post by **movielocke** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:00 am

I'd put hateful 8 in top three for Tarantino with Django unchained and pulp fiction as his best work, it's actually something of a blend of both, in a way.

I've not seen pulp fiction in a long time so I couldn't put the three in a well justified order.

What aspects of which Tarantino films make said films not films for adults, bearcub? Is it the presence of graphic, aestheticly discomfiting moments that refuse to politely avert the cameras gaze? Is it the refusal to portray such a moment within the boundaries of typical visual portrayals?

hearthesilence · #124 Post by **hearthesilence** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:12 pm

movielocke wrote:...the presence of graphic, aestheticly discomfiting moments that refuse to politely avert the cameras gaze...the refusal to portray such a moment within the boundaries of typical visual portrayals

This probably explains why we don't see eye to eye on this film. I would've gone along with this argument back in the '90s but not with his most recent work, even if Tarantino's claimed the exact same arguments as his real intentions with these films.

hanshotfirst1138 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:44 am

bearcuborg wrote:Well, Crem's shtick aside - I'll say this, I'm as excited to see this in a great big theater. So I'll be checking this thread for everyone's take on the best possible venue.

The last time I saw something in 70mm was Samsara, then before that was Playtime in 2004 or so. I didn't make the effort to see Avatar in 70mm, which I still regret.

Cameron is on the "film is dead" bandwagon, I thought that Avatar didn't even have any prints struck? Was it a 15/70 IMAX print?

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