Criterion and Warner Bros.

[Jeff]

So far from Warner we have:

Badlands
Barcelona
Day for Night
The Emigrants
The In-Laws
The New Land
The New World
My Own Private Idaho
The Player
Short Cuts

McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Cat People, and Dreams are all expected later this year. Am I forgetting anything?

[Minkin]

So far from Warner we have:

Am I forgetting anything?

Before Trilogy and Pan's Labyrinth have both been confirmed. Blow-up might have been confirmed too, depending on how you interpret Criterion's posting the New Years clue. There's also the speculation by Ian - which has thus far been rather accurate.

[FrauBlucher]

Could WB possibly have licensed anything from the Golden Age?

[Minkin]

And The Player isn't from WB but instead "Rehab Entertainment" - which is all rather mysterious still. Does anyone have any clue how they ended up with it and what else they might have the rights to? (the owner of the company is a film producer on numerous films, but I don't see The Player listed in his credits).

[Jeff]

Ah, yes. Forgot about that weirdness with The Player. And yes, I think Ian's speculation is right on the money. There are phantom pages convincing me that The Breaking Point and Klute are in the works, and I can't imagine a world in which Criterion doesn't handle Blow-Up and The Magnificent Ambersons. I suspect that the Before Trilogy having two Warner titles and one Sony title complicates matters, but I'm hopeful that they're figuring it out.

[Ashirg]

I wonder if lack of To Have and Have Not from Warner Archive with all other Bogie-Bacalls out mean it will be double-featured with The Breaking Point

[Buttery Jeb]

It looks like Home Theater Forum aren't putting up the scanned copies of the Criterion press releases they usually have. I was curious to see if The New World was licensed from Warners Brothers or from New Line via Rehab Entertainment. If it was via Rehab, I'm hoping that means there might be some other prime New Line titles coming via that deal (including the aforementioned Pan's Labyrinth, plus other possibilities like Primer, The Sweet Hereafter, Gummo and Spanking the Monkey).

[flyonthewall2983]

Wasn't there brief talk of Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid?

[therewillbeblus]

Any chance/speculation of The Man Who Would Be King? I believe it's a Warner title and John Huston's got 2 in the collection.

[FrauBlucher]

On a side note, the guy that runs the HTF didn't know Criterion and WB has a deal. Seemed surprised at yesterdays release of The In Laws.

[beamish13]

Perhaps we'll get the 2 Bertolucci films that WB has: Tragedy of a Ridiculous Man and The Sheltering Sky

[cdnchris]

Didn't Bertolucci confirm The Sheltering Sky was coming from Criterion? I could have sworn that was posted somewhere here (or maybe another site).

Also, Criterion didn't send out sell sheets this time, but I'm pretty sure The New World, like My Own Private Idaho, is still owned by Warner/New Line, and there are still DVDs and Blu-rays from Warner in print. From what I could piece together with The Player is that New Line simply had the distribution rights. My guess is the rights lapsed (which is why the Warner Blu-ray went out of print) and whoever this Rehab is either picked them up, OR they acted as a go-between with Criterion and the rights holders (which I think is Spelling Entertainment).

[captveg]

On a side note, the guy that runs the HTF didn't know Criterion and WB has a deal. Seemed surprised at yesterdays release of The In Laws.

Ron's a classic Hollywood films kind of guy. The previous WB titles (Day for Night, The Emigrants, etc ) wouldn't have been on his radar.

[criterion10]

My guess is the rights lapsed (which is why the Warner Blu-ray went out of print) and whoever this Rehab is either picked them up, OR they acted as a go-between with Criterion and the rights holders (which I think is Spelling Entertainment).

In theory, I actually see this as a positive, as Criterion could now use a different film to fulfill one of their Warner licenses. (How many titles is it common for them to license out at a time? From the guesswork so far, I was under the impression that the Warner deal covered about 30+ titles or so.)

[knives]

On a side note, the guy that runs the HTF didn't know Criterion and WB has a deal. Seemed surprised at yesterdays release of The In Laws.

Ron's a classic Hollywood films kind of guy. The previous WB titles (Day for Night, The Emigrants, etc ) wouldn't have been on his radar.

That's being a terrible Hollywood guy if you don't care about a film nominated for Best Picture.

[captveg]

Even with that nomination, The Emigrants is hardly a Hollywood production.

[knives]

True, but claiming to be a fan of Hollywood (classic or otherwise) and not having that level of cursory knowledge of their annual autobiography makes you rather inadequate as a fan.

[Noiradelic]

Also, Criterion didn't send out sell sheets this time, but I'm pretty sure The New World, like My Own Private Idaho, is still owned by Warner/New Line, and there are still DVDs and Blu-rays from Warner in print. From what I could piece together with The Player is that New Line simply had the distribution rights. My guess is the rights lapsed (which is why the Warner Blu-ray went out of print) and whoever this Rehab is either picked them up, OR they acted as a go-between with Criterion and the rights holders (which I think is Spelling Entertainment).

I'm almost positive The Warner The New World BD is OOP -- though copies may still be circulating -- and it seemed to fall OOP at the same time as The Player.

[Noiradelic]

I wonder if lack of To Have and Have Not from Warner Archive with all other Bogie-Bacalls out mean it will be double-featured with The Breaking Point

Double-featured by WAC? That seems unlikely -- have they even upgraded any MOD titles yet? I imagine To Have and Have Not will come out soon as part of the gradual drip of WAC releases.

[cdnchris]

Also, Criterion didn't send out sell sheets this time, but I'm pretty sure The New World, like My Own Private Idaho, is still owned by Warner/New Line, and there are still DVDs and Blu-rays from Warner in print. From what I could piece together with The Player is that New Line simply had the distribution rights. My guess is the rights lapsed (which is why the Warner Blu-ray went out of print) and whoever this Rehab is either picked them up, OR they acted as a go-between with Criterion and the rights holders (which I think is Spelling Entertainment).

I'm almost positive The Warner The New World BD is OOP -- though copies may still be circulating -- and it seemed to fall OOP at the same time as The Player.

Possibly, though it's still available fairly cheap on various sites as far as I can see(of course that doesn't mean much obviously). At any rate New Line is one of the film's production companies, unlike The Player, and it appears they own it outright.

[Ashirg]

Double-featured by WAC? That seems unlikely -- have they even upgraded any MOD titles yet? I imagine To Have and Have Not will come out soon as part of the gradual drip of WAC releases.

Double-featured by Criterion since The Breaking Point is a most likely candidate.

[domino harvey]

Susan Slept Here was just upgraded from MOD to Blu-ray

[FrauBlucher]

On a side note, the guy that runs the HTF didn't know Criterion and WB has a deal. Seemed surprised at yesterdays release of The In Laws.

Ron's a classic Hollywood films kind of guy. The previous WB titles (Day for Night, The Emigrants, etc ) wouldn't have been on his radar.

That's being a terrible Hollywood guy if you don't care about a film nominated for Best Picture.

I'm not sure that his favorite type of films means anything..... He owns and runs a successful site. He has solid contacts within the industry, yet he's caught off guard by not knowing that the biggest studio in the world, with the deepest, largest catalog has entered an agreement to license a bunch of films to the top boutique label. Plus, he has a good relationship with Warner Bros. Just surprising.

Could WB possibly have licensed anything from the Golden Age?

Wasn't there speculation that Mildred Pierce (1945) could be Criterion bound?

[onedimension]

So far from Warner we have:

Badlands
Barcelona
Day for Night
The Emigrants
The In-Laws
The New Land
The New World
My Own Private Idaho
The Player
Short Cuts

McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Cat People, and Dreams are all expected later this year. Am I forgetting anything?

Is that the Lewton/Tourneur 'Cat People' or the Paul Schrader? Warner has been sitting on that Lewton collection, which would make a great blu set, from them or Criterion.

[Noiradelic]

Definitely the Lewton. The remake was recently released by Shout Factory.