Mank (David Fincher, 2020)

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Re: Mank (David Fincher, 2020)

#26 Post by beamish14 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:48 pm

This is an amazing time to be a Welles fan, given how we now have The Other Side of the Wind, Too Much Johnson, Welles/Hopper,
a fresh Quixote restoration attempt, and beautiful Blu-Rays of his films. But in spite of all of this newfound reevaluation and wealth of fresh insights into his
creative gifts, we're getting "Pauline Kael's Raising Kane: The Motion Picture".

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#27 Post by Drucker » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:00 pm

I mean do we know that for sure? Don't most Fincher films feature a toxic protagonist or two who is often to blame for their own downfall/shortcomings?

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#28 Post by Never Cursed » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:06 pm

Somehow I don't think the legacy of Orson Welles is going to be horribly negatively affected by this one film. I doubt many would bolster Kael's essay now, but that doesn't mean a dramatization of her basic points is inherently threatening to or damaging of Welles or his reputation. I'm honestly more interested by/concerned with the script's passion-project quality to Fincher than its relation to Raising Kane.

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#29 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:36 pm

From the look of the trailer, this feels like Fincher and his father are taking the relatable human development in Kane and reflexively applying specifically structured scenes to project these ideas onto Mank's life. I predict those who have the same issues with The Social Network's literalism will pick this apart, and those who can look past rigid historical accuracy to reach the emotional core will love it. Personally, rather unsurprisingly, I think this looks incredible- especially if Mank's infamous alcoholism plays into these themes to the degree it appears to

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#30 Post by AlexFar » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:27 pm

I would add that what we know of the Kael connection is based on a 1994 draft of the screenplay and this teaser doesn’t necessarily suggest one direction or the other, except that it would be a particularly ironic for a film affecting the Wellesian baroque to portray him as a thief.

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#31 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:03 pm


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#32 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:28 pm

According to this interview it's the first time that him and Atticus Ross have not performed on one of their soundtracks, strictly composing the music which was performed by a "socially distanced orchestra" which they oversaw.

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#33 Post by Ovader » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:19 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:48 pm
This is an amazing time to be a Welles fan, given how we now have The Other Side of the Wind, Too Much Johnson, Welles/Hopper,
a fresh Quixote restoration attempt, and beautiful Blu-Rays of his films. But in spite of all of this newfound reevaluation and wealth of fresh insights into his
creative gifts, we're getting "Pauline Kael's Raising Kane: The Motion Picture".
Off topic to the forthcoming MANK film so feel free to move my post to an appropriate thread. Where did you read about a fresh Quixote restoration attempt?

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#34 Post by Big Ben » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:10 pm

Interesting visual parallel between the close up of the bottle of alcohol falling out of Oldman's hand and the snow globe falling out of Welles' hand in Citizen Kane.

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#35 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:16 pm

That's the main image I was thinking of in brewing my optimistic hypotheses

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#36 Post by beamish14 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:52 am

Ovader wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:19 pm
beamish14 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:48 pm
This is an amazing time to be a Welles fan, given how we now have The Other Side of the Wind, Too Much Johnson, Welles/Hopper,
a fresh Quixote restoration attempt, and beautiful Blu-Rays of his films. But in spite of all of this newfound reevaluation and wealth of fresh insights into his
creative gifts, we're getting "Pauline Kael's Raising Kane: The Motion Picture".
Off topic to the forthcoming MANK film so feel free to move my post to an appropriate thread. Where did you read about a fresh Quixote restoration attempt?

There was a lengthy court battle regarding the negatives, with Oja Kodar
eventually taking control of them.I had thought that it was actually in progress, but it's really just speculation at this point. I just hope they're
properly preserved, and the same goes for the enormous amount of It's All True footage that is still sitting at the UCLA Film & tTelevision
Archive.

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#37 Post by Nasir007 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:14 pm

Poster. Is this the first netflix poster to have credits? They usually just have the logo and movie name. They look fanmade most of the times (check out the horrid posters for Rebecca).

Image

We also have a release date and rating. Curious billing style.

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#38 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:53 pm

The final poster for Marriage Story also had a full billing block. More recently there's this for The 40-Year-Old Version. So rare but not completely unprecedented.

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#39 Post by bainbridgezu » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:57 pm

Love the poster (does Netflix sell these anywhere?), but wondering why Oldman is a dead ringer for Rip Torn?

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#40 Post by swo17 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:11 pm

I was gonna say he looks more like Danny Huston. But maybe that's because I just watched a movie with Danny Huston

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#41 Post by soundchaser » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:25 pm

I thought Jack Nicholson when I first saw it, so it's obviously a stunning likeness of...someone.

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#42 Post by Nasir007 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:45 pm

New trailer.

If of course all looks very promising and you just know the academy is going to gobble this up.

I am intrigued by the image. It is being shot digitally with an 8K monochrome sensor and finished at a 6K DI.
If there was any film that might have merited shooting film and/or academy ratio it would have been this.
I know most people don't care but would have interesting. I just think digital always looks too scrubbed clean (like it did to me in Roma).

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#43 Post by SSF » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:00 pm

Explore behind the scene images and sample the film’s score here:

https://www.thewhitewinecameupwiththefish.com/1


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#45 Post by Red Screamer » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:10 pm

I don't know, from the trailer the cinematography unmistakably has that pristine digital look. Doesn't have to be a bad thing, but it's not exactly The Good German.

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#46 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:31 pm

I agree, plus the article seems to focus more on the sound design

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#47 Post by Nasir007 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:38 pm

Early word promises an all-timer instant classic.

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#48 Post by Red Screamer » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:51 am

You linked to three tweets, two of which are just vague hyperbole that don't mention the movie by name and one that calls it "the most accurate movie about old Hollywood" which is pointless praise, especially from someone who I doubt is a scholar of film history.

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#49 Post by TheKieslowskiHaze » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:15 am

Nasir007 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:38 pm
Early word promises an all-timer instant classic.
I'd bet that Joey Magidson tweet is about Borat and not Mank. A few days after that tweet, he wrote a glowing review of the former.

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#50 Post by hearthesilence » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:00 pm

This feels more and more like a lifelong dream project for Fincher. Even before his father wrote the script in the '90s, David Fincher has shown a great affinity for this era in quite a few of his music videos - they either consciously evoke that era ("Vogue," "Holding On") or draw heavily from the films of that era (particularly when by Fincher's own admission he's using visual ideas lifted from Kane - "Oh Father," "End of the Innocence," "Roll with It," etc.)

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