World of Wong Kar Wai

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#551 Post by dwk » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:18 pm

TheKieslowskiHaze wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:06 pm
In the Mood for Love Beaver Review

Screencap comparisons confirm what we already knew.
So disappointing. In the Mood for Beaver was right there and you missed it. [-(

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#552 Post by TheKieslowskiHaze » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:52 pm

feihong wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:08 pm
And none of these changes feel anything but arbitrary revisionism––though I think they do reflect the aesthetics of current digital cinema, where the image can be color-corrected into a very stylized presentation.
The new caps made me think of digital-era David Fincher. And though I like the style of digital-era Fincher, I don't want older films to look like that. Part of the joy of film history is appreciating different eras with different aesthetics.
dwk wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:18 pm
So disappointing. In the Mood for Beaver was right there and you missed it. [-(
It was too obvious. I couldn't do it.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#553 Post by swo17 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:02 pm

Every time someone avoids a DVD Beaver pun, an angel gets its wings

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#554 Post by Finch » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 pm

They still haven't released some of the Bergmans from his set individually, right? At this point, the only film I might want to get is 2046, and importing an English-friendly copy is likely to be quicker.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#555 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:30 pm

Finch wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 pm
They still haven't released some of the Bergmans from his set individually, right? At this point, the only film I might want to get is 2046, and importing an English-friendly copy is likely to be quicker.
No they stopped that a while ago, and after Mulvaney emailed me saying there were no plans to release any of the Fellinis individually, I started to accept that this was a modality of releasing they probably aren't interested in continuing. Unfortunately, it's going to mean buying entire sets for only a few or sometimes single films. Fortunately, it might mean rediscovering merit on other films (as just happened to me when I bought the Fellini set solely for Juliet of the Spirits)

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#556 Post by Finch » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:31 am

Thanks for confirming, TWBB. A bit of a bummer but not unexpected.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#557 Post by Sternhalma Weinstein » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:13 pm

Thank God for Facebook
Brad Mariano:
Thanks Gary. Detail looks incredible but colours are not for me - particularly egregious yellow in the screens of the cigarette smoke and plate of food. I’m passing on this one sadly
Zack Steffens:
Brad Mariano I hear you can switch to the original colour grading if you prefer.
Steen Kjems Toudal:
Zack Steffens Sure, if you have the old blu-ray.
Zack Steffens:
Steen Kjems Toudal uh, no, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that one of the amazing features of this new 4K transfer, is that you can switch the colour grading on the fly.
Steen Kjems Toudal:
Zack Steffens I think you just made that up.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#558 Post by FrauBlucher » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:35 pm


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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#559 Post by therewillbeblus » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:39 pm

No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man. But if the alternative river is actually toxic sewage, maybe go back to the first river as a different man?

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#560 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Good news, Biden named reissuing a fixed WKW box as one of his "Day One" priorities for Wednesday

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#561 Post by therewillbeblus » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:01 pm

I knew there was a reason I voted for him

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#562 Post by bluesforyou » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:35 pm

Chungking Express looks pretty good.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#563 Post by Emm » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:41 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:39 pm
No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man.
Hmm, I don’t know that Heraclitus intended his dictum to justify that kind of revisionism. I think he’d agree that Han still shoots first.
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#564 Post by cowboydan » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:44 pm

For me, the big question is whether or not the price for Chungking 2008 OOP BDs will go down and stay down. Just this week there was an ebay auction that ended at $54 and one at $40 !!!! I would gladly pay $40 for it.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#565 Post by therewillbeblus » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:49 pm

I think I paid $75 for my copy roughly four years ago, which was a decent deal at the time

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#566 Post by cowboydan » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:23 am

Yeah, it's still all over the place. Mostly in the range of $60 - $80. Around Christmas there were some over $100. Also, of course there are some "buy it now" listings for sealed copies at $300. [-X

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#567 Post by tenia » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:49 am

FrauBlucher wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:35 pm
Beaver... Chungking Express
The audio is still lossless 5.1 surround but more robust than the 2012 Blu-ray edition. I didn't notice strong differences - still robustly transferred and sounds great.
Sure. :roll:

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#568 Post by dwk » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:14 pm


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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#569 Post by cowboydan » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 am

dwk wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:14 pm
Days of Beaver Wild
Looks good in some instances. Not so good in others. I don't like when the green filter starts to lean towards blue. In some shots, the green filter just kills the whites way too much. Also, it looks like the alternate cut is not restored. Perhaps even an SD upscale. No complaint here though. Just an observation. I'd rather have it unrestored than not at all.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#570 Post by dwk » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:53 pm


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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#571 Post by Sternhalma Weinstein » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:05 pm

It's great that we're getting seven new films from Wong

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#572 Post by Black Hat » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:34 pm

Well humor is one way to make this thread less depressing.

Has there been a sense of how much these films have lost from a hitting the same emotional notes standpoint?

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#573 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:05 am

I really wish that French BD set was a viable option for me. (35 euros for FIVE of his best films.) If there was only a way to add/play a separate .srt file on a standalone player during Blu-ray playback, it would make life easier.

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#574 Post by Zot! » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:44 am

Now that the smoke has cleared some, can somebody give something of a overall assessment of what has happened here, because it is hard to follow from the speculation (a full re-edit of Chunking Express, which turns out was just the original trailer.) to the confirmed (weird as fuck digital cropping and stretching of Fallen Angels and a Matrix-bath for ITMFL).

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Re: World of Wong Kar Wai

#575 Post by tenia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:41 am

Zot! wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:44 am
Now that the smoke has cleared some, can somebody give something of a overall assessment of what has happened here, because it is hard to follow from the speculation (a full re-edit of Chunking Express, which turns out was just the original trailer.) to the confirmed (weird as fuck digital cropping and stretching of Fallen Angels and a Matrix-bath for ITMFL).
Chungking Express actually is the only one that led to speculation, but it since received a proper A/B comparison.
As Tears Go By
Days of Being Wild
Fallen Angels

I haven't been able to find if there was a comparison here for In the Mood for Love, especially since Gary hasn't mentioned much about the soundtrack (that, IIRC, has been modified and not simply remixed).

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