Kino Lorber Studio Classics Acquisitions

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#3051 Post by domino harvey » Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:57 pm

One of the Belmondo titles is revealed to be Philippe de Broca's Cartouche

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#3052 Post by Drucker » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:18 pm

The Hot Spot
Coming May 4th!

The Hot Spot (1990)
• Brand New 2K Master – Color Graded & Approved by DP Ueli Steiger
• NEW Interview with Star Virginia Madsen
• NEW Interview with Actor William Sadler
• NEW Audio Commentary by Entertainment Journalist Bryan Reesman
• Theatrical Trailer

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#3053 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:45 pm

Drucker wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:18 pm
The Hot Spot
Coming May 4th!

The Hot Spot (1990)
• Brand New 2K Master – Color Graded & Approved by DP Ueli Steiger
• NEW Interview with Star Virginia Madsen
• NEW Interview with Actor William Sadler
• NEW Audio Commentary by Entertainment Journalist Bryan Reesman
• Theatrical Trailer
I need to revisit this. Before I ever knew anything about Miles Davis or John Lee Hooker, I caught a chunk of it on TV and have no memory of the music. It's pretty astonishing to me now that Hopper presumably got Davis and Hooker into the recording studio together - two massive giants of their respective fields.

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#3054 Post by captveg » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:41 pm

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Foxes (1980) (DVD) (BD had also previously gone OOP)


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#3056 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:51 pm

Unless they're morons, this is just marketing and they'll release both cuts and say "Due to overwhelming demand from fans of both, we've decided to include both!"

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#3057 Post by captveg » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:12 pm

Only doing one of the cuts in 4K seems to be a budget restraint.

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#3058 Post by Big Ben » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:18 pm

You would think that this would be one title that they would not want to be hindered by budget constraints but whoever runs the page on Facebook says they'd have to charge $80 if they included two 4K discs.

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#3059 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:07 pm

Kino Insider broke down the Universal titles by year for the decades of 30s and 40s
Here's the 30s and 40s:

1930 - 0
1931 - 0
1932 - 3
1933 - 3
1934 - 6
1935 - 6
1936 - 3
1937 - 1
1938 - 0
1939 - 2
1940 - 3
1941 - 2
1942 - 0
1943 - 1
1944 - 0
1945 - 0
1946 - 3
1947 - 2
1948 - 4
1949 - 2
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#3060 Post by Ribs » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:10 pm

Kino’s approach is always what costs the least amount of money - hence why they’re also not paying for an HDR pass. This is in response to many people complaining that only the extended was getting the UHD treatment, it’s them making an opportunity for that choice to be up to their fans. I really can’t be bothered to care either way as I still feel it seems likely Arrow have UHD rights to these in the UK and will do right by them.

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#3061 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:18 pm

Let’s hope one of those 1947s is the Web

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#3062 Post by beamish14 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:15 pm

KL Insider keeps stating that the Universal-owned Alan Ladd Great Gatsby noir still isn't available to them, possibly as a result of some rights issues with
the Paramount adaptation of the book, which seems odd to me given that the book finally entered the public domain on 1 January 2021.

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#3063 Post by captveg » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:25 pm

KL Insider has officially updated the specs for The Good, the Bad and the Ugly to indicate the Theatrical version won the Facebook crowdsourcing vote.

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#3064 Post by Calvin » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:39 pm

Ribs wrote:Kino’s approach is always what costs the least amount of money - hence why they’re also not paying for an HDR pass. This is in response to many people complaining that only the extended was getting the UHD treatment, it’s them making an opportunity for that choice to be up to their fans. I really can’t be bothered to care either way as I still feel it seems likely Arrow have UHD rights to these in the UK and will do right by them.
We can certainly hope so, but I don't think there's anything that can be contrived to be the Dollars Trilogy (or even just The Good, the Bad and the Ugly) on their cryptic 2021 slate.


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#3065 Post by Calvin » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:41 pm

Big Ben wrote:You would think that this would be one title that they would not want to be hindered by budget constraints but whoever runs the page on Facebook says they'd have to charge $80 if they included two 4K discs.
I can understand why Arrow didn't go down this path for Cinema Paradiso, but I would have thought that there'd be a market for a bells and whistles release of The Good the Bad and the Ugly the same way that there was for Dawn of the Dead. I certainly would have been willing to pay $80 for a multi cut, HDR release. As it is, this feels like it will just be a stop gap until someone else does it better

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#3066 Post by dwk » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:52 pm

There very much is a market for an expensive, multi cut The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly release, Kino is just too cheap to do it. It is the frustrating thing about them getting a massive title like this.

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#3067 Post by L.A. » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:50 pm


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#3068 Post by Stefan Andersson » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:12 pm

captveg wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:25 pm
KL Insider has officially updated the specs for The Good, the Bad and the Ugly to indicate the Theatrical version won the Facebook crowdsourcing vote.
Based on the update above, it seems that Kino Lorber is aware of GBU expert Jordan Krug´s research into the film´s various home video versions. Re: the "extreme closeup of Blondie before Tuco´s gang enters", see here: https://vimeo.com/user10881768

Jordan Krug videos about other Leone films: https://vimeo.com/user10881768

More specific info about the KL restorative work on GBU:

"Some updates regarding our upcoming 4KUHD release of THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY:

NEW color grading was applied to BOTH the Extended version (4KUHD) and Theatrical International version (Blu-ray). The color grading will now be consistent between both versions of the film.

We also restored the 2.0 Mono audio, going back to the 1993 MGM laserdisc PCM monaural track.

Disc 2 (Blu-ray) – Theatrical Cut
A 4K scan of a 1967 35mm IB tech print is the secondary source for approximately 10 seconds of content that is not present in the extended version of the film. This comprises of 5 shots total:

A) The optical flip ending in Tuco's neck back around the noose. (Timecode 01:24:13:03- 14 frames)

B) Tuco shoving the "Open/Closed" sign into the storekeeper's mouth. (Timecode 01:37:46:20- 5 seconds, 10 frames - this was cut short in the 2017 Kino theatrical version)

C) An extreme closeup on Blondie's eyes shortly before Tuco's gang comes barging through the door - features a hidden jump cut that is present on both the 35mm IB tech print and the Laserdisc release but not in the extended cut - (Timecode 01:41:54:15- 1 second, 14 frames- not present in the 2017 Kino theatrical version)

D) The fade up on Tuco and Blondie riding up to the mission after forcing him to walk through the desert (Timecode 02:02:45:19- 1 second, 3 frames- cut short in the 2017 Kino)

E) The tail of the shot of the train leaving the station. (Timecode 02:38:22:08- 2 seconds, 1 frame- cut short in the 2017 Kino)

Total Run Time: 02Hrs, 41Min, 57Sec

We also added the newly restored German Theatrical Trailer to our amazing list of extras - Courtesy of Jordan Krug and Benji Heran"

Source: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/commun ... 4/page-417 - post 8,321
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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics Acquisitions

#3069 Post by Stefan Andersson » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:25 pm

dwk wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:52 pm
There very much is a market for an expensive, multi cut The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly release, Kino is just too cheap to do it. It is the frustrating thing about them getting a massive title like this.
+1 vote for a multi-cut edition of GBU (Arrow? Eureka?)

Also, someone on HTF asked KL Insider: "Any chance you will eventually reissue the standalone Blu-ray (containing both versions, ideally) with the new color-grading for those of us who do not have UHD 4k players or displays?" Reply: "Sorry, but I doubt it."
Source: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/commun ... 4/page-417 - post 8,325

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#3070 Post by EddieLarkin » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:03 pm

Ribs wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:10 pm
Kino’s approach is always what costs the least amount of money - hence why they’re also not paying for an HDR pass. This is in response to many people complaining that only the extended was getting the UHD treatment, it’s them making an opportunity for that choice to be up to their fans. I really can’t be bothered to care either way as I still feel it seems likely Arrow have UHD rights to these in the UK and will do right by them.
To be fair to Kino, it's not as simple as doing "an HDR pass". If the film has not been graded in HDR when it was restored, which it clearly wasn't (the current version is from 2014), then it would mean doing a whole new scan/restoration/grade in the HDR realm, or at the very least returning to the raw 2014 scan and starting from there.

The reason Kino aren't going to do that is because they've had the GBU licence since 2017 and have already sank money into their terribly botched Theatrical Cut reconstruction, and who knows how long they have left on their licencing period (maybe only until next year?). The numbers obviously aren't adding up for them to do anything but this sort of quickie cash grab release.

That said, this release presents them with yet another opportunity to finally do GBU in some form of proper edition, which has never happened before. Every time MGM have released it, they've only offered the Extended Cut, which has the crappy old man Clint/Wallach dubbing, and which includes a scene that Leone never intended to be there. Kino attempted to offer the superior Theatrical Cut last time, but left out a number of snippets by mistake, used a really poor sounding original mono, and worst of all completely fucked up the already bad Ritrovata grading.

But this time they've confirmed they've sourced a far superior copy of the mono from the laserdisc, which is reportedly amazing, they've confirmed that all the little errors from the last reconstruction have been fixed, and they're taking another shot at the grading. If they can stick that landing, this will be the only version of GBU worth owning on disc, the 4K resolution is simply a nice added bonus.

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#3071 Post by Big Ben » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:59 pm

Coming May 4th with a commentary track. Yes really.

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Yep Yep

#3072 Post by Gregory » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:27 pm

Related: is there a good list anywhere of the dumbest movie taglines in history (like, by people who have read a whole lot of them, because obviously the bar for this is really high)?

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#3073 Post by captveg » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:49 pm

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Rolling Vengeance (1987) (DVD still available)

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#3074 Post by captveg » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:22 pm

After a brief return after some copies were found, F.I.S.T. (1978) is once again OOP on BD (DVD still available).

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