Kino Lorber Studio Classics

[ryannichols7]

our good buddy has confirmed that the spring sale will be "later in March, into April"

will lift the load a bit since it's rumored sales will be coming from a few labels this month

[captveg]

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Don't Give Up the Ship (1959) (BD) (DVD previously OOP)
MicroCosmos (1996) (BD) (DVD previously OOP)
Pocketful of Miracles (1961) (BD) (DVD still available and not scheduled to go OOP)
The Woman in the Window (1945) (DVD) (BD still available)

[captveg]

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Canadian Pacific (1949) (BD)
For Love of Ivy (1968) (BD) (DVD Previously OOP)
F/X2 (1991) (BD) (Recently re-issued as double feature with F/X (1986))

[dwk]

Today's Kino announcement: Search for Beauty (1934) from a new 2K master.

[dwk]

And Sunday's announcement is The Mad Magician.

[captveg]

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Ten Seconds to Hell (1959) (DVD) (BD Previously OOP)

[Finch]

A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS (1964)

DISC 1 (4KUHD)
• Over 24 hours of extensive shot-by-shot color grading of the logarithmic restored 4K files provided by L’Immagine Ritrovata
• Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
• Audio Commentary by Noted Film Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
• 5.1 Surround and Original 2.0 Mono
• Triple-Layered UHD100 Disc
• Optional English Subtitles

DISC 2 (BLU-RAY)
• Over 24 Hours of extensive shot-by-shot color grading of the logarithmic restored 4K files provided by L’Immagine Ritrovata
• Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
• Audio Commentary by Noted Film Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
• Interview with Actress Marianne Koch
• The Christopher Frayling Archives: A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
• A New Kind of Hero
• A Few Weeks in Spain: Clint Eastwood on the Experience of Making the Film
• Tre Voci: Three Friends Remember Sergio Leone
• Not Ready for Primetime: Renowned Filmmaker Monte Hellman Discusses the Television Broadcast of A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
• The Network Prologue with Harry Dean Stanton
• Location Comparisons: Then to Now
• TRAILERS FROM HELL with John Badham
• A FISTFUL in Pictures Image Gallery
• Promoting A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS Image Gallery
• A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS On the Set Image Gallery
• Archival Outtakes
• Radio Spots
• Double Bill Trailer
• Theatrical Trailer
• 5.1 Surround and Original 2.0 Mono
• Double-Layered BD50 Disc
• Optional English Subtitles

[andyli]

Over 24 hours? Is that considered long? (genuine question)

[captveg]

Additional info from KL Insider:

The FISTFUL OF DOLLARS restoration was done by L’Immagine Ritrovata a few years ago, we had released that master on Blu-ray in 2018.

This time around instead of color grading the UHD Pro Res file, we decided to go back a step and receive the logarithmic restored 4K files, the delivery of these file and the needed conform cost us an additional $10K or so, but since the mastering house recommended it and said the final result would me much better, we decided to go ahead.

[Finch]

Over 24 hours? Is that considered long? (genuine question)

I'd be surprised if it was in the industry. I've made shorts and one feature, and even each of the shorts took me considerably longer than 24 hours. I can't believe that Kino saw fit to lead with that number.

Edit: Maybe JamesF from Arrow or Michael (Brooke) can chime in..?

[swo17]

So Criterion posted on Facebook that their QC department clocked in a total of 1047 hours (423 for the DVD, 624 for the Blu-ray) in restoring Seven Samurai for release. That's like one guy working fulltime for over six months (unless they have him working sweatshop hours). Assuming they pay these guys, I dunno, $30 an hour, and Criterion makes, say, $20 for each copy they sell, they'd have to sell over 1500 copies just to break even on QC costs!

[movielocke]

Over 24 hours? Is that considered long? (genuine question)

No. Yes. Depends.

For a feature no.

For scripted tv sometimes.

For unscripted tv yes.

It sounds like they had a graded master. Then they had a color grader come in to apply (or remove) a look from the graded master.

If kino usually receives a graded master and puts zero hours of grading into it, this would be a lot from their perspective.

But grading a full feature from an ungraded source in three days? Highly unlikely.

[bad future]

I have no idea how Kino is measuring this or how whatever they're doing compares to what anyone else would do, but I do remember asking a lot of the same questions when they proudly advertised their last Leone UHD in similar terms ("Over 30 hours of extensive shot-by-shot color grading"!) and it seems like that grading was generally well received upon release? Admittedly the bar was pretty low as IIRC the previous blu-rays only came in desaturated or Ritrovata yellow. But this is 20 percent fewer hours of grading for like 40 percent fewer minutes of movie, so maybe by their inscrutable standards and methods, this is....good??

[Drucker]

It seems like a really stupid metric to highlight. The GBU was an excellent release and that's in large part due to the participation of fans of the film that Kino informally consulted on the release to ensure it's accuracy. Would love to give them the benefit of the doubt and assuming the same care was put in for this release and it yields great results once again.

[Finch]

I don't recall if Arrow specifically mentioned doing their own grading for The Tree of Wooden Clogs but the rights owner seems not to have minded. Criterion didn't even bother. So props to Kino for putting in some effort at least even if their way of drawing attention to it is worthy of a face palm.

[tenia]

The question would be : how long does the grading step usually takes for a 120 min movie's restoration ? IIRC, a whole restoration's grading can take place over the course of a week. If that's indeed the case (and not a faulty memory of mine), taking 24-30 hours of work (ie about 3-4 days) to re-grade a restoration ALREADY graded can indeed be non-negligible.

The issue however isn't so much the time it took than the direction taken. A similar amount of time probably was taken to re-grade TGTBTU the first time around, except the result was far from convincing.

I don't recall if Arrow specifically mentioned doing their own grading for The Tree of Wooden Clogs but the rights owner seems not to have minded.

Considering how extensively color-corrected this Film Foundation/director supervised restoration was by Arrow with pretty much 0 advertisement they weren't releasing it as is, I still wonder who authorized what exactly (though I also wonder if they would have to do so anyway - we're seeing multiple movies being graded in a way on a release for the same restoration to be graded differently elsewhere - see The Lover recently in Germany).

[captveg]

I don't find it all that weird that they would promote their work here. That was a big selling point for GBU after all, and they are looking to attract the same consumers.

[captveg]

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

1492: Conquest of Paradise (1992) (DVD) (BD still available)
Captain Apache (1971) (DVD) (BD still available)
El Paso (1949) (DVD) (BD previously OOP)
Invitation to a Gunfighter (1964) (BD) (DVD previously OOP)
The Wrong Guy (1997) (BD) (DVD previously OOP)

[Finch]

FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (1965)

DISC 1 (4KUHD)
• The Complete Restored Edit of FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE with Extensive Shot-by-Shot Color Grading
• Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
• Audio Commentary by Film Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
• Newly Corrected 2.0 Mono and 5.1 Surround Audio
• Optional English Subtitles

DISC 2 (BLU-RAY)
• The Complete Restored Edit of FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE with Extensive Shot-by-Shot Color Grading
• Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
• Audio Commentary by Film Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
• On location in Almería and Granada with Filmmaker Alex Cox
• The Christopher Frayling Archives: FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE
• A New Standard: Frayling on FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE
• Back for More: Clint Eastwood Remembers FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE
• Tre Voci: Three Friends Remember Sergio Leone
• FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE: The Original American Release Version Featurette
• Location Comparisons
• TRAILERS FROM HELL with Ernest Dickerson
• Promoting FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE Image Gallery
• FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE On the Set Image Gallery
• FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE Color Stills Gallery
• FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE Pictures Gallery
• Radio Spots
• Double Bill Trailer
• Two Theatrical Trailers (Newly Encoded)
• NEW Correctly Synched 2.0 Mono and 5.1 Surround Audio
• Optional English Subtitles

The Three Restored Scenes:
01:12:35:22-01:13:03:10 – Mondo's first close up is now fully unedited.
01:23:12:10-01:23:37:15 – Indio's laugh is now fully unedited.
02:40:06:11-02:42:02:07 – The beating scene restored in its full unedited form.

[FrauBlucher]

The KL Insider has decided not to answer the multiple questions about whether they have lost the rights to the Lost Highway. Sounds like they have washed their hands of their Lynch experience.

[captveg]

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

An Eye for an Eye (1981) (DVD) (BD still available)
Killer Force (1976) (BD)

[domino harvey]

Francis the Talking Mule 7-film collection

Shocked they’re not releasing this as seven individual titles

KLSC announced that all seven movies have commentary tracks. What could anyone possibly have to say about these films that wouldn't be covered in like one commentary track

[soundchaser]

Francis the Talking Mule 7-film collection

Shocked they’re not releasing this as seven individual titles

KLSC announced that all seven movies have commentary tracks. What could anyone possibly have to say about these films that wouldn't be covered in like one commentary track

Commentary is easy when you’re basically just reading facts off IMDb.

[therewillbeblus]

Let ::kogonada do all seven and get release of the year over with

[andyli]

What is the rationale behind using three separate discs for three cuts of Touch of Evil? I remember that my Universal blu-ray hosts all three cuts on one disc via seamless branching. Is this a technical thing not doing the same for the UHD on Kino's part? Could it have something to do with the inclusion of Dolby Vision which is scene specific?

EDIT: To answer my own question, Apocalypse Now's second disc has two cuts via seamless branching while also carries Dolby Vision, so I guess that's at least doable. But they did isolate the final cut on its own disc, so I guess it has to do with disc capacity and bitrate. They want the best presentation possible for the primary cut so there's no room for extra footage that's not going to end up in that cut. Kino could be following the same line of thought.