MichaelB wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:28 am
So now that Godard's gone, is there anyone left alive who first made an indelible mark on cinema in the 1950s?
It just occurred to me that Peter Watkins just about qualifies, having made his first short films in the 1950s,
including The Diary of an Unknown Soldier in 1959.
It'll be interesting to see if the Academy produces a special memorial or just tacks him onto their yearly remembrance at the Oscars. I kind of think he needs something special from them
Even if they give him the special treatment like Kubrick, I can't imagine they'll honestly reckon with the range and depth of his work. At best it'll be a cutesy "pop art" montage ala Wes Anderson.
What they should do is cancel the whole program and just show the entirety of "Histoire(s) du cinéma"
Quote Perf Unquote wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:05 am
Even if they give him the special treatment like Kubrick, I can't imagine they'll honestly reckon with the range and depth of his work. At best it'll be a cutesy "pop art" montage ala Wes Anderson.
What they should do is cancel the whole program and just show the entirety of "Histoire(s) du cinéma"
I remember their very elaborate tribute to John Hughes, and I don’t think they’ll afford the same treatment to Godard, especially considering how he disliked the AMPAS and essentially rejected Hollywood’s attempts to court him at various times
Before last week, I'd've thought Godard's death would be overshadowed by the Queen's and discussed predominately in idiosyncratic spaces. However, I've been surprised by how many people I know (who don't even get within throwing distance of the arts) have been initiating conversations with all this knowledge about this guy named Godard that they just heard of and everyone's apparently talking about in live media. It seems that he's being actively discussed in a range of podcasts and news articles and radio shows as a pioneer, which he is, but I've heard more people engaging in water-cooler talk about Godard than the Queen lately and it's very heartening.
therewillbeblus wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:08 pm
Before last week, I'd've thought Godard's death would be overshadowed by the Queen's and discussed predominately in idiosyncratic spaces. However, I've been surprised by how many people I know (who don't even get within throwing distance of the arts) have been initiating conversations with all this knowledge about this guy named Godard that they just heard of and everyone's apparently talking about in live media. It seems that he's being actively discussed in a range of podcasts and news articles and radio shows as a pioneer, which he is, but I've heard more people engaging in water-cooler talk about Godard than the Queen lately and it's very heartening.
I'm guessing your water cooler isn't in the locker room in a steel mill in Missouri or Ohio, or a Wal-Mart break room in Wyoming, or a bindery in New Mexico, or the concessions stand at Wrigley Field, because 99% of this country's population has no idea who Godard is and doesn't give fuck one about him, especially since he has a girl's first name.
Well, maybe you’d better climb down from your ivory tower and go have a conversation with a hardworking Wyoming ranch hand, who will tell you that Real Americans are still too busy grieving Tarkovsky to worry about some three-named Frenchman.
FrauBlucher wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:17 am
It'll be interesting to see if the Academy produces a special memorial or just tacks him onto their yearly remembrance at the Oscars. I kind of think he needs something special from them
Sorry - I'm honestly not trying to be a Dick, but this made me laugh out loud.
One reason I love Godard is/was his enduring contempt (see what I did there?) for Hollywood / The Academy.
DarkImbecile wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:15 am
Well, maybe you’d better climb down from your ivory tower and go have a conversation with a hardworking Wyoming ranch hand, who will tell you that Real Americans are still too busy grieving Tarkovsky to worry about some three-named Frenchman.
Personally, I often have to avoid getting into fistfights at midwest sports bars when talk turns to the virtues of Positif vs Cahiers du cinéma. And when the Cottafavi retrospective rolls into town, you know you'd better stay indoors with the curtains drawn...
DarkImbecile wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:15 am
Well, maybe you’d better climb down from your ivory tower and go have a conversation with a hardworking Wyoming ranch hand, who will tell you that Real Americans are still too busy grieving Tarkovsky to worry about some three-named Frenchman.
I worked in a print shop for five years with a bunch of burly ass uneducated Russian boomers, and they fucking loved Tarkovsky and we talked about him all the time. No Frenchies at that shop, though, so no Godard discussion.
