Kino Lorber Studio Classics

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andyli
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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6151 Post by andyli » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:14 pm

It looks fine to my eyes. The Paramount 4k restorations for films from that era have always been soft with a slightly filtered look. I guess I must have grown used to it.

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6152 Post by ChunkyLover » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:04 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:30 am
Didn’t it get a lot of criticism for having a sub-par transfer?
It’s decent for a 2020s Paramount-restoration. It looks much better in-motion than screen-caps imo.

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6153 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:43 pm

It's on the soft side, but I thought that was partly due to the elements they had to work with:
Film Foundation wrote:The 4K restoration of FORCE OF EVIL was completed using the 35mm nitrate fine grain, 35mm nitrate composite dupe negative, and 35mm nitrate track positive. Image scans and audio files were provided by Paramount and the digital restoration was completed by Roundabout Entertainment. The audio restoration was done at Audio Mechanics. Restored by UCLA Film & Television Archive and The Film Foundation. Funding provided by the Hobson/Lucas Family Foundation.
I ended up preferring the look of the Kino Blu-ray as the older transfer (as seen on the old Arrow Blu-ray) looked rougher in detail and texture.

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6154 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:23 pm

I'm still watching it but whatever master Kino used for There’s Always Tomorrow has some of the ugliest-looking grain management I've ever seen. The grain's "present," but it's very clumpy and looks incredibly strange the way it's moving around on-screen, like watching Alka-Seltzer bubbles breaking the surface.

I bring it up because there are times when it's hard to ignore. At one point during Stanwyck's first scene, when the film cuts back and forth between medium close-ups, it's like the skin on their faces has come alive as some kind of separate entity.

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6155 Post by ChunkyLover » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:08 pm

hearthesilence wrote:
Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:23 pm
I'm still watching it but whatever master Kino used for There’s Always Tomorrow has some of the ugliest-looking grain management I've ever seen. The grain's "present," but it's very clumpy and looks incredibly strange the way it's moving around on-screen, like watching Alka-Seltzer bubbles breaking the surface.
Yeah, it’s definitely the worst type of an older Universal-supplied master. Even trying to watch the MoC DVD, which uses the same master, the “grain” is still distracting in-motion at lower rez.

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6156 Post by hearthesilence » Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:01 am

Lincoln Center just screened a 35mm print - really regret missing that because the movie was otherwise excellent.

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6157 Post by dwk » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:40 am

Coming Soon on Blu-ray!
4K Restoration by StudioCanal!

MAIGRET SEES RED (1963)

Starring Jean Gabin, Francois Fabian, Michel Constantin, Marcel Bozzuffi & Paul Carpenter – Shot by Louis Page (Any Number Can Win) – Music by Michel Legrand (The Thomas Crown Affair) & Francis Lemarque (Playtime) – Based on a Novel by Georges Simenon (Panique) – Directed by Gilles Grangier (Rhine Virgin, Hi-Jack Highway, Speaking of Murder, The Night Affair).

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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics

#6158 Post by JSC » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:38 pm

I'll pick that up. The films themselves aren't particularly substantial, but Gabin makes a good world-weary Maigret.

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