Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol. 4

News on Criterion and Janus Films
Locked
Message
Author
User avatar
andyli
Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:46 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#551 Post by andyli »

Jeff wrote:Rialto still has the theatrical rights for Grand Illusion and most other StudioCanal releases in the U.S, but Lionsgate retains the video rights.
According to a post from blu-ray.com, the territory option on the Grand Illusion blu-ray shows only Germany, France and UK, which means the film will only be issued as part of StudioCanal Collection in those countries. Previous experience indicates if Lionsgate is to distribute a release from StudioCanal Collection, you will fiind the US territory option and Lionsgate logo in the respective European blu-ray disc (they are pretty much the same disc anyway). So what I'm speculating is either Lionsgate finally lost interest in selling StudioCanal Collection in US, or Studio Canal themselves were withdrawing from their grand illusion of making Studio Canal Collection a truly global banner.

Or, maybe Lionsgate is just planning to give the film a stand-alone release, considering the 4k restoration too big an event to be diminished to a sub-banner? But again that involves extra cost of authoring a different disc, which seems quite unecessary to me.
User avatar
Brian C
I hate to be That Pedantic Guy but...
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:58 pm
Location: Northwest US

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#552 Post by Brian C »

Lionsgate hasn't released a StudioCanal Collection release since, what, Delicatessen? I'm not holding my breath.
nolanoe
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:25 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#553 Post by nolanoe »

Satyricon and Roma on BD - and properly mastered - would be a dream come true indeed.
User avatar
captveg
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:28 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#554 Post by captveg »

Brian C wrote:Lionsgate hasn't released a StudioCanal Collection release since, what, Delicatessen? I'm not holding my breath.
Which could have ticked off StudioCanal. I mean, the lack of interest in the films that Lionsgate has shown (what - 5 releases?) would tick me off if I was SC. It doesn't help their brand at all in a major market like the US. I can see SC looking to make an agreement with another US distributor.
User avatar
Jeff
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:49 am
Location: Denver, CO

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#555 Post by Jeff »

captveg wrote:
Brian C wrote:Lionsgate hasn't released a StudioCanal Collection release since, what, Delicatessen? I'm not holding my breath.
Which could have ticked off StudioCanal. I mean, the lack of interest in the films that Lionsgate has shown (what - 5 releases?) would tick me off if I was SC. It doesn't help their brand at all in a major market like the US. I can see SC looking to make an agreement with another US distributor.
Ticked or not, they'll have to wait for the Lionsgate contract to expire first.
User avatar
jedgeco
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:28 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#556 Post by jedgeco »

It's not inconceivable that the contract could provide a right for SC to terminate if Lionsgate isn't exploiting the catalog. Surely SC didn't enter into the deal for Lionsgate to just sit on the films.
User avatar
Drucker
Your Future our Drucker
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 1:37 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#557 Post by Drucker »

This again.
User avatar
jwd5275
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:26 pm
Location: SF, CA

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#558 Post by jwd5275 »

jedgeco wrote: Surely SC didn't enter into the deal for Lionsgate to just sit on the films.
Of course not. They entered into it because it made financial sense and as long as it still makes financial sense in their eyes, how well Lionsgate uses their catalogue is of secondary importance.
Noiradelic
Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:45 am

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#559 Post by Noiradelic »

andyli wrote:Or, maybe Lionsgate is just planning to give the film a stand-alone release, considering the 4k restoration too big an event to be diminished to a sub-banner? But again that involves extra cost of authoring a different disc, which seems quite unecessary to me.
To a studio like Lionsgate, a Grand Illusion restoration is a non-event. These are the guys who passed on From Dusk Till Dawn, a more lucrative property by several magnitudes.
member24958
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:11 am

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#560 Post by member24958 »

Noiradelic wrote:
andyli wrote:Or, maybe Lionsgate is just planning to give the film a stand-alone release, considering the 4k restoration too big an event to be diminished to a sub-banner? But again that involves extra cost of authoring a different disc, which seems quite unecessary to me.
To a studio like Lionsgate, a Grand Illusion restoration is a non-event. These are the guys who passed on From Dusk Till Dawn, a more lucrative property by several magnitudes.
Or rather passed on the batch that contained FDTD since it seems highly unlikely bids were taken on just the most desirable titles.
User avatar
ShellOilJunior
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:17 am

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#561 Post by ShellOilJunior »

Predictions:

Shallow Grave
M.Hulot's Holiday
Weekend
Le Havre
The Gold Rush
The Spy Who Came in From the Cold
User avatar
aox
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:02 pm
Location: nYc

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#562 Post by aox »

I doubt they would do another Bergman so soon, but I really want Wild Strawberries.
bamwc2
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:54 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#563 Post by bamwc2 »

ShellOilJunior wrote:Predictions:

Shallow Grave
M.Hulot's Holiday
Weekend
Le Havre
The Gold Rush
The Spy Who Came in From the Cold
Shallow Grave and Gold Rush seem like givens. As for the rest...who knows. Personally I'm hoping for The Trilogy of Life, but we'll see soon enough.
felipe
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 3:06 am

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#564 Post by felipe »

How is Shallow Grave a given? Was there any hint?
User avatar
Brian C
I hate to be That Pedantic Guy but...
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:58 pm
Location: Northwest US

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#565 Post by Brian C »

Yes, they put up a still on Facebook last week (see here).
User avatar
The Narrator Returns
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:35 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#566 Post by The Narrator Returns »

I really hope we get more Hal Ashby in June. I know it's probably wishful thinking, but maybe Harold and Maude got pushed to June 12 because they're releasing Coming Home or The Last Detail on that date.
User avatar
Napier
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:48 pm
Location: The Shire

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#567 Post by Napier »

I'm still not giving up hope for The Quiet Man.
User avatar
Michael
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:09 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#568 Post by Michael »

Any news on Rocco and His Brothers?
User avatar
Drucker
Your Future our Drucker
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 1:37 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#569 Post by Drucker »

Could this finally be the month for Quadrophenia? I wonder if that could end up being the bare bones release...
User avatar
The Narrator Returns
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:35 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#570 Post by The Narrator Returns »

Given that there is now one-or-two Universal titles per month, and there hasn't been talk of any other Universal title, Quadrophenia could be released in June. But I don't think it will be the bare-bones title. There hasn't been a Kurosawa release in a while, so Madadayo is my guess for the bare-bones title.
bamwc2
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:54 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#571 Post by bamwc2 »

The Narrator Returns wrote:I really hope we get more Hal Ashby in June. I know it's probably wishful thinking, but maybe Harold and Maude got pushed to June 12 because they're releasing Coming Home or The Last Detail on that date.
Alas, if I remember correctly, when they hinted at Harold and Maude at the end of the last year, they either explicitly stated or implied that they were only working on one Ashby title. I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but I'm sure that someone else could whip it up in no time flat (probably to show that I'm wrong :wink:). More of his works in HD would be quite welcome though.

As for more hopes (rather than predictions) I would love to see either Things to Come or Three Cases of Murder make the leap from Hulu to disc soon. While the latter is bound to be on the horizon for a special edition at some point, the latter is a plausible candidate for their new monthly barebones release. While I absolutely adore both films, Three Cases of Murder is probably my favorite film that Criterion released on LD that hasn't been on DVD yet.
User avatar
Drucker
Your Future our Drucker
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 1:37 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#572 Post by Drucker »

bamwc2 wrote:I would love to see either Things to Come or Three Cases of Murder make the leap from Hulu to disc soon. While the latter is bound to be on the horizon for a special edition at some point, the latter is a plausible candidate for their new monthly barebones release.
Out of curiosity, what did you like about Things To Come? I tried watching it on DVD a few months ago and found the film extremely frustrating and felt it really didn't deliver for me.
nolanoe
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:25 pm

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#573 Post by nolanoe »

Hoping for a left field Heaven's Gate. That one is made for Criterion, and I refuse to watch the DVD of the Dir Cut. ;)
User avatar
swo17
Bloodthirsty Butcher
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:25 pm
Location: SLC, UT

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#574 Post by swo17 »

I don't know if these are leaks or just predictions but Ryan tweeted these earlier this morning (when I assume he was already in possession of a sell sheet):
Spoiler
Samurai trilogy
An Autumn Afternoon
User avatar
aox
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:02 pm
Location: nYc

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#575 Post by aox »

Spoiler for a release title?
Spoiler
Assuming they will never break up the Late Ozu eclipse set for BD upgrades, An Autumn Afternoon is one of my most anticipated titles! That would be good news for me indeed.
Locked