Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four

[domino harvey]

Did Joseph Beuys ever wear glasses? The distinctive cheeks and hat are very Beuys-y

[movielocke]

if Left guy is Norman Lear or Godard, then King Lear fits. if right guy is Coppola, Tucker a Man and his dream fits. and it's a double clue.

if it's Woody Allen then New York stories fits, but why no scorsese.

if it's burroughs and ginsberg, perhaps it's "The Beat Generation" but that doesn't seem to pass the smell test or be a likely film.

[domino harvey]

Can't tell if that's a serious guess but Lionsgate just put out Tucker on Blu ray a few months ago

[mteller]

Norman Lear’s signature hat is all white. The drawing really doesn’t look much like him anyway.

[domino harvey]

The beardie def looks like Coppola. "Francis King"... "France's King"... that's all I got

[DarkImbecile]

Jacques Demy’s Parking?

[knives]

Do the stars matter?

[bobbymilk]

Could the guy on the left be Ben Stein?
Young Frank (Coppola) & (Ben) Stein

[Blutarsky]

Manhattan. The bench and the actor give me Allen vibes and the man on the right looks vaguely familiar to a side character he had in a film. I also think the king is to tie to his opening quote “New York Was His Town”

[domino harvey]

If that's a clue for Manhattan, we're deleting the forum

[BigMack3000]

Do the stars matter?

Let's pretend they do. The Coppola looking figure has 5 points, and he has 5 Oscars. So who has 8?

[dda1996a]

Who has a very pointy nose glasses and a hat?

[therealburnham]

I can't shake that the guy on the left to me looks like Steve Martin. Not sure where that leads though.

[swo17]

Guy on the left appears to be bald under his hat when wearing the crown

[Therewolf]

Do the stars matter?

If they do, then there's Jacques Tourneur's Stars in My Crown. I'll admit it's a bit of a stretch.

[Yaanu]

Given how the clue for CLUNY BROWN featured a more realistically rendered version of George Clooney's face, I have to ask if we're looking too closely into the figures on the bench and trying to identify them when they're meant to just be generic or nondescript.

[ianungstad]

There were rumors from back in 2017 that Criterion was going to release Godard's King Lear. Woody Allen appears in the film. Other cameos include Norman Mailer, Leo Carax, etc. Coppola isn't in it but could it be one of the other actors/cameos from the film? The poster has an image of Godard with a bushy beard.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093349/me ... 1415587328

[KJones77]

There's just no way that's supposed to be Woody Allen.

[swo17]

If you were asked to come up with a clue for King Lear, would you have drawn this clue?

[Malickite]

Capote and Coppola both wrote screenplays for The Great Gatsby. Perhaps the illustration is them thinking how they may have succeeded had their versions been realized. Yeah, I know, stupid. But that's all I got.

[DeprongMori]

I’m absolutely certain that the person on the right is intended to be Francis Ford Coppola. I’d be willing to believe that the person on the left is William S Burroughs. The only connection I can find between them is “The Junky’s Christmas” (a 1993 short), but I don’t believe for a minute that’s what the clue is pointing to.

Based on Coppola alone, we have either have a use of or pun on his name, or his involvement.

Re his involvement: I can find nothing in his Director or Producer credits that resembles the “imagines/dreams of being king” part of the clue. The closest reference to a park bench scene in his work is “The Conversation”, which isn’t even close.

Which leaves us with his name “Francis” or “Coppola”/“couple-a”, for which I draw a blank.

The first figure has his eyes clearly open and Coppola has them clearly shut. Not sure if that’s relevant.

In other words, I got nothin’.

[PfR73]

That is absolutely Francis Ford Coppola in the drawing; it's the lips.

[strangetramp]

I was thinking maybe Philippe de Broca and Alan Bates for King of Hearts, but there probably has to be significance that there's two of them imagining it and in the film only Bates is thought to be king by the escaped asylum patients.

[knives]

I’m absolutely certain that the person on the right is intended to be Francis Ford Coppola. I’d be willing to believe that the person on the left is William S Burroughs. The only connection I can find between them is “The Junky’s Christmas” (a 1993 short), but I don’t believe for a minute that’s what the clue is pointing to.

Based on Coppola alone, we have either have a use of or pun on his name, or his involvement.

Re his involvement: I can find nothing in his Director or Producer credits that resembles the “imagines/dreams of being king” part of the clue. The closest reference to a park bench scene in his work is “The Conversation”, which isn’t even close.

Which leaves us with his name “Francis” or “Coppola”/“couple-a”, for which I draw a blank.

The first figure has his eyes clearly open and Coppola has them clearly shut. Not sure if that’s relevant.

In other words, I got nothin’.

Maybe a bad Ford pun. Hitchhiker's Guide?

[Donald Brown]

It's Burroughs and Ginsburg. Work from there.