1058 The Irishman

[Big Ben]

November 1st in Select Cities. November 27th on Netflix.

[mfunk9786]

Good for Scorsese - that's a nice theatrical run, provided Netflix gives it the needed support/screens

[Nasir007]

Is this the first Scorsese film to not get a wide release at any point in its entire run?

[mfunk9786]

There's no wider release than Netflix, so no

[swo17]

It's not even the first Scorsese film this year to not get a wide theatrical release

[Jack Kubrick]

Is this the first Scorsese film to not get a wide release at any point in its entire run?

After Hours, The King of Comedy, and Kundun were all limited theatrical releases.

[Nasir007]

Is this the first Scorsese film to not get a wide release at any point in its entire run?

After Hours, The King of Comedy, and Kundun were all limited theatrical releases.

Thanks!

It is surprising Kundun did not go wide being a Disney release. Maybe something to do with the controversy. But anyways, that makes Irishman his first film in over 20 years to only have a limited theatrical showing.

This Collider article is making a big deal about the fact that the Baumbauch film has a 30 day theatrical window whereas this has a 26 day theatrical window though I don't know what's a few days here and there mean. I think both films backed by an awards campaign will play for months in theaters in atleast some theaters. I think in NYC we had Roma almost till February.

[Brian C]

It is surprising Kundun did not go wide being a Disney release. Maybe something to do with the controversy.

It is roughly the least surprising thing in human history that KUNDUN didn’t get a wide release precisely because it was Disney. The only surprise is that Disney ever went near it with a 10-lightyear-long pole in the first place.

[Nasir007]

The subject itself is a bit hot potato but I can see the appeal for them. Disney has shown a willingness to bring diverse experiences to the big screen in a consumer friendly high gloss package. Kundun might not be that, but could have been an interesting undertaking for their legendary marketing acumen.

[mfunk9786]

What are we even talking about at this point?

[Big Ben]

To be blunt, how much money it makes and where it plays won't matter all that much if it can get Netflix what it's really gunning for. Awards recognition.

[Brian C]

I dunno, Netflix wants to make money like everyone else. They’ve seemed to have something of an ideological commitment to streaming up to this point, but if they realize they’re leaving money on the table theatrically, they’ll adjust like everyone else does.

The other thing is that they’re losing access to a lot of third-party content as more and more rightsholders start their own streaming platforms. So theatrical expansion might make some strategic sense for their own content, even if it’s a bit of a loss leader.

[FrauBlucher]

I’m sure once it gets nominated it’ll get a secondary release and in more markets.

[adavis53]

Film Society at Lincoln Center sent an email out notifying people going to the festival that there are limited screenings of this because it runs "close to four hours". I've done some cursory googling and only seen notices about Scorsese claiming the film contains around 300 scenes. Does anyone else know any info about the runtime/length?

Immediately went to check the schedule again and it has finally been updated with a 210 min runtime.

[therewillbeblus]

Wow, well it is spanning most of a man’s life after all.. and considering Scorsese’s talents at making a three hour movie feel like a breeze, I’m less worried and more intrigued.

[TwoTecs]

I don't think I have ever been this hyped for a new movie since I have been paying attention to them.

Although the film will get shortchanged on the theatrical side but Scorsese seems to have gotten the freedom with the length of this that a regular studio would never have allowed for this sort of film.

[Nasir007]

I don't think I have ever been this hyped for a new movie since I have been paying attention to them.

Although the film will get shortchanged on the theatrical side but Scorsese seems to have gotten the freedom with the length of this that a regular studio would never have allowed for this sort of film.

Wow. 210 minutes. Scorsese sure is making most of this Netflix opportunity. No way a straight theatrical studio would allow for a movie of this kind at this budget be this long.

The streaming format definitely makes sense now.

[quim_font]

Still keep seeing some second guessing of Scorsese on his choice to de-age. It was obviously a conscious artistic decision to work with these actors. The collaboration informs the structure and the thematic concerns of the work. A non CGI alternative would radically alter the film.

I would think so too, but there seems to be some trepidation in his remarks while he was talking about it with Joanna Hogg. But that may have more to do with just getting the details correct, rather than using it at all.

"Martin:...I love 35mm. Even this new one I'm doing, The Irishman, or the actual title should be I Heard You Paint Houses, we shot as much 35 as possible. However, there's a great deal of CGI because we're doing this youthification of De Niro, Pesci, and Al Pacino. They had to be CGI. They had to be a camera with three lenses. I was just crazy.

Why I'm concerned, we're all concerned is that we're so used to watching them as the older faces. When we put them all together, it cuts back and forth. The thing I talked about before in New York to you. Now, it's real. Now, I'm seeing it. Now, certain shots need more work on the eyes, need more work on why these exactly the same eyes from the plate shot, but the wrinkles and things have changed. Does it change the eyes at all? If that's the case, what was in the eyes that I liked? Was it intensity? Was it gravitas? Was it threat?"

https://a24films.com/notes/2019/05/a-bi ... oanna-hogg

[Nasir007]

The collaboration informs the structure and the thematic concerns of the work. A non CGI alternative would radically alter the film.

You have no way of knowing this...

If Scorsese wanted to make a movie where different actors played the character at different stages of his life he would have done so. Given that Scorsese is a smart filmmaker, I am sure he has considered the impact of the different approaches available to him.

Here is a director who thinks about what each frame says but he didn't think of how working with a single actor per character would change his film compared to the alternative?

Scorsese confirmed this. He said the film could not have been made without CGI deaging and it is not a gimmick. That's reassuring.

[TwoTecs]

A magazine scan of the Empire feature on the film

[Big Ben]

Source.

[Nasir007]

godawdul photoshop. Pesci looks like Scrroge in the Romert Zemickis motion-capture A Christmas Carol from a decade ago.

[domino harvey]

It's impressive to have all three actors not match up with their names

[Jack Kubrick]

Robert Mueller looks comfortable in that photo shoot with Trump's key witnesses.

[tehthomas]

Very direct to video (err.. streaming) poster art. Yikes.