Jean-Luc Godard

[The Fanciful Norwegian]

Reading through The Future(s) of Film: Three Interviews 2000/01 in which Godard says he "liked quite a lot" Samira Makhmalbaf's The Apple...

Godard included this in a nine-film series he guest-programmed in Le Havre in 2004, around the time of Notre musique's release. His other contemporary selections were the already-mentioned The Brown Bunny, Miéville's Après la réconciliation, Moullet's Les naufragés de la D17, Alain Guiraudie's Sunshine for the Poor, Isild Le Basco's Demi-tarif, and Jean-Claude Biette's Saltimbank. He also programmed Mr. Klein and Level Five.

[NWRdr4]

Godard has said he likes “the two minutes of American Beauty where it becomes a Cassavetes film,” whatever that means

Yeah, after doing a quick google search I can confirm again that his appreciation for both American Beauty and The Sixth Sense was indeed very limited. Here he criticizes both for being merely "illustrations" of scripts. "The real romantic isn't there," he writes. (My French is limited, so feel free to correct that.)

Reading through The Future(s) of Film: Three Interviews 2000/01 in which Godard says he "liked quite a lot" Samira Makhmalbaf's The Apple...

Godard included this in a nine-film series he guest-programmed in Le Havre in 2004, around the time of Notre musique's release. His other contemporary selections were the already-mentioned The Brown Bunny, Miéville's Après la réconciliation, Moullet's Les naufragés de la D17, Alain Guiraudie's Sunshine for the Poor, Isild Le Basco's Demi-tarif, and Jean-Claude Biette's Saltimbank. He also programmed Mr. Klein and Level Five.

Ah, right! Brody mentions this in his book, but he left out the Miéville and Losey films. Thanks!

[domino harvey]

Godard has said he likes “the two minutes of American Beauty where it becomes a Cassavetes film,” whatever that means

Yeah, after doing a quick google search I can confirm again that his appreciation for both American Beauty and The Sixth Sense was indeed very limited. Here he criticizes both for being merely "illustrations" of scripts. "The real romantic isn't there," he writes. (My French is limited, so feel free to correct that.)

Based on the context of his full quote, I think he may be making a pun with his use of "romanesque," in that these scripts are competent and functional but only explore one side of the story they tell, thus they lack the complexity of a novel (roman). But he could also be using the traditional use of the word to criticize their individual flavor/touch as lacking the romantic notion of the author

[quim_font]

I’d agree he’s using it in the sense of Roman (novel). Relating back to his comments on The Sixth Sense, where he says, “...it would be better to start before, or after, and then go to one side.” I believe he’s talking about how the films are told through a single characters POV, rather than considering the lives and subjectivities of other characters. While of course there are many first-person narratives in literature, the adjective “novelistic” is often used in the complete opposite sense, applied to films where many characters subjectivities are shown or observed in depth.

And, to my knowledge, Godard as never made a “first-person narrative” type film.

[Stefan]

Godard and Eastwood finally united (and Johnny Hallyday was there too) - Cesars ceremony 1998:

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/nachr ... /667972504

[quim_font]

Does anyone know if Godard ever expanded upon the text from an episode of Histoires that reads something like: CITIZEN KANE IS NOT A MODEL FOR US TO FOLLOW/ORSON WELLES MAKES FUN OF HISTORY

I know he admires at least some of his films, has he ever discussed his objections? I’ve never been able to pin it down.

[Oedipax]

This piece in Libération mentions that Godard recently asked the publication if he could read his pre-written obituary and was told it's not yet been written!

He's also on the cover of this month's Cahiers with a lengthy interview inside. I'll hopefully be able to source a copy, as my subscription has lapsed...

[accatone]

Thanks for the tip, ordered a copy!

[Oedipax]

I ordered a copy as well and am now making my way through it - just wanted to post a quick note that the article has some details on a new film, Scénario, that Godard is currently working on. (An aside in the issue’s editorial mentions Godard says ‘he doesn’t know if he’ll have the strength to see it through.’)

There are a couple images of the script (le scénario) showing the structure of the film (6 parts to Le livre d’images’s 5):

1. De natura rerum
2. Akhenaton
3. Le député d’Arcis
4. Fake news
5. L’idée fixe
6. Avec Bérénice

[Ovader]

English excerpts from the above mentioned Interview. “ARDENT HOPE” by Stéphane Delorme and Joachim Lepastier, Les Cahiers du Cinéma, no. 759, October 2019.

[Oedipax]

As is to be expected at this point, Godard ended up cancelling his in-person appearance at the Cinémathèque Française that was to take place a couple days ago (introducing Anne-Marie Miéville's Après la réconcilliation). He did, however, send along a four page letter, images of which (and an English translation) can be found at Kino Slang. It ends, amusingly enough, with a quote by Alan Greenspan.

[Production601]

the documentary about the Costa concordia shooting of Socialism is available for free
www.filmcatastrophe.com

[feckless boy]

the documentary about the Costa concordia shooting of Socialism is available for free
www.filmcatastrophe.com

Many thanks for the heads-up!

[accatone]

I have no instagram so can not follow. Maybe somebody will „tape“ this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-oqE-lgj5b/?hl=fr

[Oedipax]

Wow, how cool - although sadly I missed it here in the US.

Doesn't seem to be a replay option available so far... you can see some stills here.

[domino harvey]

This has popped up on back channels. The discussion runs for 98 minutes!

[The Fanciful Norwegian]

It's also on Youtube. Not sure about the ethics of linking it since it doesn't appear to have been uploaded by any "official" accounts, but it's easy to find through a search.

[domino harvey]

I don’t know where to post this so I’ll put it here, but I was curious: how were American cartoon shorts shown in France in the fifties and sixties? I assumed they’d be dubbed, especially since France was dubbing a lot of Hollywood product anyways, but the two explicit references to American cartoons in Godard’s sixties output (Loopy the Loop and Sylvester) both feature the actors saying their imitative lines in English, which suggests that’s how Godard and his audience knew them

I remember Vadim’s Sait-on jamais opens with a (too) long head-fake via a theatrical screening of a Gerald McBoing Boing cartoon, but I can’t recall if it was depicted dubbed or not!

[Saturnome]

The french dub I grew up for the Looney Tunes with was done gradually from 1962 up to the early 90s with (mostly) the same actors. When Space Jam came along everything was redubbed with new voice actors and this is what you get on blu-ray now (somehow in Quebec the old dub still played in the 2000s, thus why I grew up with it). I guess the old dub was made for television, I'm not sure though. But there is no dub prior to 1962 for these shorts.

[Rayon Vert]

Is it possible also that sometimes Quebec did its own dubs in Québécois French? This one sounds like it.

[The Fanciful Norwegian]

Is it possible also that sometimes Quebec did its own dubs in Québécois French? This one sounds like it.

It's possible this was dubbed done by a distributor of an unofficial compilation videos; some examples of such dubs are here, though unlike Hare Tonic these are from public-domain cartoons. (Also, the Hare Tonic dub sounds much more professional despite its problems.) This thread on a fan project to restore the original French-dubbed versions says the same thing happened in France. The thread also has lots of information on the older official dubs, including some of the changes made along the way (like the various actors who dubbed Elmer, and Speedy being renamed "Presto Gonzales" before reverting to his English name a few episodes later*) and the fact that some shorts were dubbed twice even before the redubbings of the late '90s.

*Something similar happened with Pepé Le Pew, who was called "Henry" in the original French dub of Odor-able Kitty but renamed "Pépé le putois" (Pépé the Polecat) for his later cartoons.

[Saturnome]

Never heard these dubs before! No doubt they were circulating before my time though. All I ever heard was Guy Piérauld's original Bugs Bunny, but I watched them on television and what I'm sure were official VHS. Maybe a reason that it stayed here is that the new dub make use of french slang ("tronche de cake") that isn't used here.

Guy Piérauld also used to dub Hervé Villechaize, such as in The Man with the Golden Gun. I used to think that Hervé Villechaize was the one voicing Bugs Bunny.

[lzx]

The Instagram Live event first posted about on the previous page is now available with English subtitles on the host's Vimeo page!

[barbarella satyricon]

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[accatone]

I‘am not sure if this is „old“ footage for Godardians here, but i have not seen this in its entity before:
https://cinematheque.tube/videos/watch/ ... &start=26s