1036 Bruce Lee: His Greatest Hits

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Re: 1036 Bruce Lee: His Greatest Hits

#26 Post by swo17 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:00 pm

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#27 Post by aox » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:19 pm

Is this the mid-month announcement? Is this all of the mid-mount announcements? or, will there still be the regular mid-month announcement? If so, why was this just randomly announced?

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#28 Post by swo17 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:28 pm

It's a large enough boxset that they announced it separately like the Bergman or Olympics sets. No reason to expect that they won't announce a few more titles as well, other than the world ending

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#29 Post by tenia » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:54 pm

It is a symbolic one because of Bruce Lee, but it remains a 5-movies boxset, and they have released many equivalent or larger sets that still were announced through the regular monthly announcements.

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#30 Post by What A Disgrace » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:58 pm

The fact that the five movies don't warrant their own individual spines definitely puts it in the same category as the Olympics, Bergman, and Godzilla sets, even if it is a smaller set.

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#31 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue May 12, 2020 11:06 am

I'm surprised they didn't talk to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for this, since he did stuff for Filmstruck and is a big Criterion fan himself.

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#35 Post by tenia » Fri May 22, 2020 5:15 pm

I won't follow up there but this screenshot is of course not falling from the sky and definitely has Ritrovata's original grading, as can be seen on the French BDs.
The only reading I can then take from Janus' answer is that they'll be using new restorations, but I doubt that's actually the case.

EDIT : my bad, they might have said "restorations" because they might just go back from the scan and do the rest, hence "new restorations".
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#36 Post by dwk » Fri May 22, 2020 5:33 pm

If they are allowed to recolor them, it is entirely possible that the person manning the Janus twitter account doesn't have access to the finished versions because they are working from home. (Hiwever, I still don't think they will be allowed to recolor.)

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#37 Post by tenia » Sat May 23, 2020 3:21 am

If Shout were allowed to regrade the movies, I suppose Criterion could be allowed to, but these would merely be new gradings, not new restorations (though maybe that's what Janus meant but over-sold it a bit).

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#38 Post by dwk » Sat May 23, 2020 9:35 am

Oh yeah, I never assumed they were talking about doing new restorations. Note that the tweet never says they are new.

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#39 Post by tenia » Sat May 23, 2020 11:08 am

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Oh yeah, I never assumed they were talking about doing new restorations. Note that the tweet never says they are new.
The pic is DEFINITELY from the 2016 4K restoration.

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So if they say it's actually "from the restoration", I assumed they could only mean it's not from THEIR restoration. Then, it's either entirely new or a modified version of the 2016 one (including a simple port of the Shout color-corrected versions).

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#40 Post by yoloswegmaster » Sat May 30, 2020 8:45 pm

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#41 Post by domino harvey » Sat May 30, 2020 9:00 pm

Is that a folded stapled booklet??

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#42 Post by yoloswegmaster » Sat May 30, 2020 10:29 pm

Also forgot to mention that the specs has changed from
2K digital restoration of the 102-minute “special-edition” version of Enter the Dragon
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New 2K digital restoration of the 102-minute “special-edition” version of Enter the Dragon

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#43 Post by black&huge » Sat May 30, 2020 10:31 pm

It looks to have a spine number as well.

EDIT: My bad it's even in the thread title. Originally it didn't have one so it took me a while to notice

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#44 Post by tenia » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:19 am

Blu-ray.com on Fist of Fury.
Criterion has seemingly performed their own color corrections on the existing 4K restoration.

The AQ score are laughable, though. Except if they are totally new (which I doubt), there are no way any of the 3 tracks can get a perfect AQ score. The Cantonese is the best one of the bunch and even it remains very limited.

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#45 Post by yoloswegmaster » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:49 am

It's Svet, he literally always gives the AQ a 5/5.

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#46 Post by Orlac » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:04 pm

tenia wrote:
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Blu-ray.com on Fist of Fury.
Criterion has seemingly performed their own color corrections on the existing 4K restoration.

The AQ score are laughable, though. Except if they are totally new (which I doubt), there are no way any of the 3 tracks can get a perfect AQ score. The Cantonese is the best one of the bunch and even it remains very limited.
I hope they obtained a better copy of the Mandarin mono track (which is the correct one for the film, the Cantonese not being made until the 1980s). The one on the previous DVDs and BDs is very muffled.

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#47 Post by tenia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:41 am

I doubt it's a new track and has more to do with Svet scoring way too high any soundtrack he's given.

EDIT : He just published his Way of the Dragon's review and again, perfect 5 on AQ and the mention the Mandarin and original English tracks are "the healhier of the four tracks, though there is nothing particularly wrong with the Cantonese and alternate English dub tracks."
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#48 Post by EddieLarkin » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:42 am

Criterion have not colour corrected to this to any significant extent, it is still piss yellow compared to Shout's effort.

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#49 Post by yoloswegmaster » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:51 am

Does anyone know the source that Shout Factory used to colour grade their version?

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#50 Post by tenia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:13 am

EddieLarkin wrote:
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Criterion have not colour corrected to this to any significant extent, it is still piss yellow compared to Shout's effort.
It's actually quite interesting a comparison, because we now have the same movie with 3 different color-gradings, and pretty much no idea which one is the more faithful to the original photography.
I quite like the overall aspect of the Shout discs, but I always felt their color corrections went too much in an opposite direction, making some shots look like they were graded for DVD in the 1990s. It's a tad too pink and has a certain way to handle white highlights that doesn't feel particularly right either.
In this regard, Criterion pretty much regraded the movies but avoided yielding a pinkish cast, which isn't bad per se. However, yup, it implied leaving part of the yellow/green cast in places, and keeping skins quite orange...

However, when I see this comparison with the original grading (hopefully, a more precise will follow soon), it still looks like an improvement.

Also, I've been watching some of the recent 88 Films HK releases and they tend to bother me in the same way : they often feel too pinkish, as if magenta-pushed like in the 90s, and I'm not sure it's any closer to the original photography than the color signature left by Ritrovata.
yoloswegmaster wrote:
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Does anyone know the source that Shout Factory used to colour grade their version?
I never managed to find anything about it but would love to know.

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