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Re: Criterion OOP

#351 Post by movielocke » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:51 pm

meaningless milestone, I think (without including the fellinis) that there are now ~1000 in print titles in the collection.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#352 Post by davidhuxley » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:44 am

How did you arrive at that figure? By my reckoning, as of October 25, 2020, there are 77 OOP spine-numbered releases. If you're counting titles instead of spines, there are 1182 films featured in the spine-numbered series. There are some releases with a single spine number, but with multiple titles, and some spine numbers which are not titles. There are also many titles released without spine numbers, like the films in the Bergman and Varda boxes.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#353 Post by SSF » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:55 am

Olivier’s Hamlet is OOP.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#354 Post by movielocke » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:19 am

davidhuxley wrote:How did you arrive at that figure? By my reckoning, as of October 25, 2020, there are 77 OOP spine-numbered releases. If you're counting titles instead of spines, there are 1182 films featured in the spine-numbered series. There are some releases with a single spine number, but with multiple titles, and some spine numbers which are not titles. There are also many titles released without spine numbers, like the films in the Bergman and Varda boxes.
Uh I don’t remember.

I think, but don’t hold me to this, my numerological sorcery was taking the highest spine number (that had been announced at that point) and subtracting the number of oop spines and getting a result that was at or above 1000.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#355 Post by captveg » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:08 pm

SSF wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:55 am
Olivier’s Hamlet is OOP.
Hopefully an indication that it and Henry V have BD upgrades just over the horizon.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#356 Post by Amazing Goose » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:06 pm

What are the chances that The Third Man comes back in print? I'm not as good at keeping up with who has the rights as some are on here, but I've noticed that just about everything seems to eventually come back in print.

I'm wishing I had sold my Sternberg DVD set when it was getting high prices, and am considering putting my Third Man blu-ray up for sale if the odds are good that it may come back at some point, too.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#357 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:43 pm

Amazing Goose wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:06 pm
What are the chances that The Third Man comes back in print? I'm not as good at keeping up with who has the rights as some are on here, but I've noticed that just about everything seems to eventually come back in print.
I hope it does. The current UK BD from Studio Canal used a 4K transfer that's a better picture than Criterion's old BD, but as documented elsewhere on this forum, the soundtrack on that UK BD has these bizarre edits (or rather errors) where bits of dialogue were somehow lost and other sound effects were even repeated.

The Criterion BD soundtrack is better, but it's also harsh from heavy compression, so ideally they'd reissue a BD with the new 4K transfer picture but tie it to their original 1999 DVDs soundtrack (as well as keeping all of the great bonuses on the old Criterion BD).

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Re: Criterion OOP

#358 Post by ianthemovie » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:44 pm

Persona is now listed as "currently unavailable" on the Criterion store. Is that the same as out-of-print? Personally I'm crossing my fingers that this means they're planning to reissue it in a single-disc/plastic case edition.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#359 Post by therewillbeblus » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:57 pm

ianthemovie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:44 pm
Persona is now listed as "currently unavailable" on the Criterion store. Is that the same as out-of-print? Personally I'm crossing my fingers that this means they're planning to reissue it in a single-disc/plastic case edition.
Probably just another example of discontinuing a dual format release to repackage with single Blu/DVD versions on the horizon

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Re: Criterion OOP

#360 Post by Wigs by Leonard » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:14 pm

ianthemovie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:44 pm
Persona is now listed as "currently unavailable" on the Criterion store. Is that the same as out-of-print? Personally I'm crossing my fingers that this means they're planning to reissue it in a single-disc/plastic case edition.
King of the Hill is another spine within the span of dual-format releases with the same status - which appears on a few dozen titles after every flash sale and only means they've depleted stock temporarily. It usually disappears fairly quickly, unless it's a dual-format spine that's sold out its print run. Persona is almost certainly coming back as soon as possible with separate Blu and DVD editions. Same is likely for King of the Hill, as Soderbergh hasn't mentioned it to my knowledge in his recent interviews about rights reverting back to him for some films, although I am curious if Kino's upcoming head-scratcher of a standalone release of The Underneath may mean that that film would be absent from the second printing's special features.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#361 Post by barryconvex » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:09 pm

ianthemovie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:44 pm
Persona is now listed as "currently unavailable" on the Criterion store. Is that the same as out-of-print? Personally I'm crossing my fingers that this means they're planning to reissue it in a single-disc/plastic case edition.
Just curious-why is this important to you? I always thought the dual format packaging for Persona was really gorgeous..

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Re: Criterion OOP

#362 Post by FrauBlucher » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:09 pm

Via Email Criterion did indeed say that Persona is getting a repackaging and I'm sure that's true for King of the Hill (I didn't ask about this title) as well. Within the first quarter of 2021 was suggested as to when it will be released

BTW... It's been listed that way since the Flash Sale ended

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Re: Criterion OOP

#363 Post by black&huge » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:29 am

barryconvex wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:09 pm
Just curious-why is this important to you? I always thought the dual format packaging for Persona was really gorgeous..
I will admit myself that i'm hanging onto my individual release mostly because of the digipak even though I have the Bergman set

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Re: Criterion OOP

#364 Post by ianthemovie » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:16 am

barryconvex wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:09 pm
ianthemovie wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:44 pm
Persona is now listed as "currently unavailable" on the Criterion store. Is that the same as out-of-print? Personally I'm crossing my fingers that this means they're planning to reissue it in a single-disc/plastic case edition.
Just curious-why is this important to you? I always thought the dual format packaging for Persona was really gorgeous..
I agree that the dual-format package design is beautiful but I prefer the single-disc editions in plastic cases because they scuff less easily and take up far less room. (My shelf space for movies is currently limited to a single 5' x 3' bookcase, so every centimeter counts!) I'm hoping that Criterion will follow suit with Jules and Jim, Breaking the Waves, and Y Tu Mama Tambien.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#365 Post by tenia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:47 pm

I do love some of the DF releases and am too keeping Persona despite having the Bergman set but yeah, those 3-discs digipacks are taking quite more space than the usual Criterion release.

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