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tehthomas
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#3101 Post by tehthomas »

If it's a 4K scan, maybe they can release it as a 4K UHD, seeing as Mad Max and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly also have gotten these treatments and The Long Goodbye has just as much prestige.
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#3102 Post by hearthesilence »

tehthomas wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:29 am If it's a 4K scan, maybe they can release it as a 4K UHD, seeing as Mad Max and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly also have gotten these treatments and The Long Goodbye has just as much prestige.
If the lab doesn't mess up the color or transfer, I would definitely get the UHD.
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#3103 Post by captveg »

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Jennifer (1978) (DVD still available)
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SaulJ
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#3104 Post by SaulJ »

DeMille's Union Pacific (1939) was just announced in Kino's Twitter page. Was anxiously day-dreaming about a potential release for this one just a couple days ago. One step closer to having all of the Palme d'Or winners on BD.
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#3105 Post by captveg »

Kino will be releasing Touch of Evil (1958) on 4K UHD. Three cuts of the film. No word yet on aspect ratio(s).
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#3106 Post by FrauBlucher »

captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:21 am Kino will be releasing Touch of Evil (1958) on 4K UHD. Three cuts of the film. No word yet on aspect ratio(s).
Absolutely huge!!!!!
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#3107 Post by Ribs »

This does seem like a higher caliber title then Universal usually lets out - they did their own special release just in 2014. Feels a bit like how MGM started just letting everyone license everything three or four years ago with no attention to the most classic things.

It’s encouraging, though - one assumes Double Indemnity is the obvious pair considering it was last released alongside this one.
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#3108 Post by captveg »

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Stryker (1983) (DVD still available)
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#3109 Post by yoloswegmaster »

KL also confirmed on twitter that all 3 cuts will be in HDR.
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#3110 Post by justeleblanc »

yoloswegmaster wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:14 pm KL also confirmed on twitter that all 3 cuts will be in HDR.
i take it these are the original theatrical release, the test-screening cut (discovered in the mid-70s), and the late 90s recut based on Welles's notes to the studio, correct?
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#3111 Post by Drucker »

Should be. That's been the case on every home video release since the 3-DVD set came out.
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#3112 Post by Calvin »

The real question is what aspect ratio Kino will go for. If they couldn't stretch to two cuts of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly then I doubt they'll stretch to six presentations of Touch of Evil
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#3113 Post by swo17 »

Having both ratios available on the MoC made it pretty clear to me that widescreen is preferable for this film
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#3114 Post by captveg »

I suspect the Universal BD release from 2014 will be the template for the Kino 4K release of Touch of Evil, which had the three cuts in 1.85 AR only.

Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.

EDIT: That was not a well thought out post in regards to remembering what has been released (and is also on my personal shelf!), as the next few posts will demonstrate.
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#3115 Post by Wigs by Leonard »

captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:36 pm Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
I believe It's a Wonderful Life holds that distinction, besting this by more than a decade. The Wizard of Oz would, I suppose, technically represent the oldest non-color footage available on a 4k disc.
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#3116 Post by bottlesofsmoke »

captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:36 pm Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
I'm guessing that It's a Wonderful Life will be the oldest (fully) B&W 4K until the inevitable Casablanca and Citizen Kane releases. I can't really think of anything older than Kane that is likely to be given that treatment.
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#3117 Post by domino harvey »

Won’t Mr Smith Goes to Washington beat ‘em all in the forthcoming Sony set?
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#3118 Post by bottlesofsmoke »

You're absolutely right, I forgot about those sets. Still, I do wonder how much further back studios will go with 4k. My hopeless dream is a Shanghai Express 4K or even something silent.
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#3119 Post by What A Disgrace »

I'd be surprised if we didn't get some popular silent classics on 4K at some point, but it'll take 4K restorations.
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#3120 Post by EddieLarkin »

Sony has mentioned It Happened One Night more than once in their polls for new 4K discs so that seems like a distinct possibility.

Further back than that King Kong springs to mind but I think it would need a new transfer, as the current one is quite old and soft now. Though I'm not sure they have better elements available anyway, so what we have may be all we ever get.

Silents would surely only ever be handled by a boutique, though if WB ever bothered to do something with The Wind, Greed or The Crowd, perhaps there could be a chance with those. The new upcoming restoration of Napoleon seems like the best bet overall.
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#3121 Post by Drucker »

What A Disgrace wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:59 pm I'd be surprised if we didn't get some popular silent classics on 4K at some point, but it'll take 4K restorations.
This is a nice thought but I don't think it's likely. The few major studio silent blu ray releases (Wings, The Big Parade) weren't followed up with anything. My POV has been that if the sales figures justified it, we would have seen more.
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#3122 Post by beamish14 »

bottlesofsmoke wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:45 pm
captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:36 pm Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
I'm guessing that It's a Wonderful Life will be the oldest (fully) B&W 4K until the inevitable Casablanca and Citizen Kane releases. I can't really think of anything older than Kane that is likely to be given that treatment.

Has Sunrise gotten the 4k treatment yet? It's been restored a number of times, and that seems like a no-brainer.
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#3123 Post by captveg »

Man, my memory was way off. I even own both Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and It's a Wonderful Life.

For someone who tries to keep track of these things more thoroughly I should have thought that one through a bit longer, lol.
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#3124 Post by Glowingwabbit »

david hare wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:18 pm
beamish14 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:08 pm
bottlesofsmoke wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:45 pm

I'm guessing that It's a Wonderful Life will be the oldest (fully) B&W 4K until the inevitable Casablanca and Citizen Kane releases. I can't really think of anything older than Kane that is likely to be given that treatment.

Has Sunrise gotten the 4k treatment yet? It's been restored a number of times, and that seems like a no-brainer.
I think the elements for all those restoration are so far from original nitrate stock you would end up with a very VERY heavy rain of duplicate grain through everything. CIty Girl comes form a muich better preserved neg, (dupkliacte nitrate?) but that's not what your'e asking.
Isn't Sunrise also a Fox title.
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#3125 Post by EddieLarkin »

david hare wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:06 pmOn the subject of UHD discs of 1.37 material, while so far I think Sony's Mr Smith is the best example by far, I think there is very little or even no place in the 4K transfers for HDR. Does anyone agree?
I'm not sure what the AR has got to do with whether a film benefits from HDR or not? But I couldn't disagree more in regards to its use with b&w titles, if that's what you mean. Higher contrast but with greater shadow detail and more nuanced highlights is a hell of a look, and I found It's a Wonderful Life and Schindler's List to be transformative. If done right Touch of Evil will likely blow away all previous Blu-rays.
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