Kino Lorber Studio Classics
- tehthomas
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If it's a 4K scan, maybe they can release it as a 4K UHD, seeing as Mad Max and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly also have gotten these treatments and The Long Goodbye has just as much prestige.
- hearthesilence
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Re: Kino Lorber Studio Classics Acquisitions
If the lab doesn't mess up the color or transfer, I would definitely get the UHD.tehthomas wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:29 am If it's a 4K scan, maybe they can release it as a 4K UHD, seeing as Mad Max and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly also have gotten these treatments and The Long Goodbye has just as much prestige.
- captveg
- Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:28 pm
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More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:
Jennifer (1978) (DVD still available)
Jennifer (1978) (DVD still available)
- SaulJ
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DeMille's Union Pacific (1939) was just announced in Kino's Twitter page. Was anxiously day-dreaming about a potential release for this one just a couple days ago. One step closer to having all of the Palme d'Or winners on BD.
- captveg
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Kino will be releasing Touch of Evil (1958) on 4K UHD. Three cuts of the film. No word yet on aspect ratio(s).
- FrauBlucher
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Absolutely huge!!!!!captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:21 am Kino will be releasing Touch of Evil (1958) on 4K UHD. Three cuts of the film. No word yet on aspect ratio(s).
- Ribs
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This does seem like a higher caliber title then Universal usually lets out - they did their own special release just in 2014. Feels a bit like how MGM started just letting everyone license everything three or four years ago with no attention to the most classic things.
It’s encouraging, though - one assumes Double Indemnity is the obvious pair considering it was last released alongside this one.
It’s encouraging, though - one assumes Double Indemnity is the obvious pair considering it was last released alongside this one.
- captveg
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More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:
Stryker (1983) (DVD still available)
Stryker (1983) (DVD still available)
- yoloswegmaster
- Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:57 pm
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KL also confirmed on twitter that all 3 cuts will be in HDR.
- justeleblanc
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i take it these are the original theatrical release, the test-screening cut (discovered in the mid-70s), and the late 90s recut based on Welles's notes to the studio, correct?yoloswegmaster wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:14 pm KL also confirmed on twitter that all 3 cuts will be in HDR.
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
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Should be. That's been the case on every home video release since the 3-DVD set came out.
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Calvin
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The real question is what aspect ratio Kino will go for. If they couldn't stretch to two cuts of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly then I doubt they'll stretch to six presentations of Touch of Evil
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
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Having both ratios available on the MoC made it pretty clear to me that widescreen is preferable for this film
- captveg
- Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:28 pm
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I suspect the Universal BD release from 2014 will be the template for the Kino 4K release of Touch of Evil, which had the three cuts in 1.85 AR only.
Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
EDIT: That was not a well thought out post in regards to remembering what has been released (and is also on my personal shelf!), as the next few posts will demonstrate.
Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
EDIT: That was not a well thought out post in regards to remembering what has been released (and is also on my personal shelf!), as the next few posts will demonstrate.
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- Wigs by Leonard
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I believe It's a Wonderful Life holds that distinction, besting this by more than a decade. The Wizard of Oz would, I suppose, technically represent the oldest non-color footage available on a 4k disc.captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:36 pm Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
- bottlesofsmoke
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I'm guessing that It's a Wonderful Life will be the oldest (fully) B&W 4K until the inevitable Casablanca and Citizen Kane releases. I can't really think of anything older than Kane that is likely to be given that treatment.captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:36 pm Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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Won’t Mr Smith Goes to Washington beat ‘em all in the forthcoming Sony set?
- bottlesofsmoke
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You're absolutely right, I forgot about those sets. Still, I do wonder how much further back studios will go with 4k. My hopeless dream is a Shanghai Express 4K or even something silent.
- What A Disgrace
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I'd be surprised if we didn't get some popular silent classics on 4K at some point, but it'll take 4K restorations.
- EddieLarkin
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Sony has mentioned It Happened One Night more than once in their polls for new 4K discs so that seems like a distinct possibility.
Further back than that King Kong springs to mind but I think it would need a new transfer, as the current one is quite old and soft now. Though I'm not sure they have better elements available anyway, so what we have may be all we ever get.
Silents would surely only ever be handled by a boutique, though if WB ever bothered to do something with The Wind, Greed or The Crowd, perhaps there could be a chance with those. The new upcoming restoration of Napoleon seems like the best bet overall.
Further back than that King Kong springs to mind but I think it would need a new transfer, as the current one is quite old and soft now. Though I'm not sure they have better elements available anyway, so what we have may be all we ever get.
Silents would surely only ever be handled by a boutique, though if WB ever bothered to do something with The Wind, Greed or The Crowd, perhaps there could be a chance with those. The new upcoming restoration of Napoleon seems like the best bet overall.
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
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This is a nice thought but I don't think it's likely. The few major studio silent blu ray releases (Wings, The Big Parade) weren't followed up with anything. My POV has been that if the sales figures justified it, we would have seen more.What A Disgrace wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:59 pm I'd be surprised if we didn't get some popular silent classics on 4K at some point, but it'll take 4K restorations.
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beamish14
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bottlesofsmoke wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:45 pmI'm guessing that It's a Wonderful Life will be the oldest (fully) B&W 4K until the inevitable Casablanca and Citizen Kane releases. I can't really think of anything older than Kane that is likely to be given that treatment.captveg wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:36 pm Also, unless I'm forgetting a release this will now be the oldest black and white film released on 4K disc in the US, besting Psycho by a couple years.
Has Sunrise gotten the 4k treatment yet? It's been restored a number of times, and that seems like a no-brainer.
- captveg
- Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:28 pm
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Man, my memory was way off. I even own both Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and It's a Wonderful Life.
For someone who tries to keep track of these things more thoroughly I should have thought that one through a bit longer, lol.
For someone who tries to keep track of these things more thoroughly I should have thought that one through a bit longer, lol.
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Glowingwabbit
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Isn't Sunrise also a Fox title.david hare wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:18 pmI think the elements for all those restoration are so far from original nitrate stock you would end up with a very VERY heavy rain of duplicate grain through everything. CIty Girl comes form a muich better preserved neg, (dupkliacte nitrate?) but that's not what your'e asking.beamish14 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:08 pmbottlesofsmoke wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:45 pm
I'm guessing that It's a Wonderful Life will be the oldest (fully) B&W 4K until the inevitable Casablanca and Citizen Kane releases. I can't really think of anything older than Kane that is likely to be given that treatment.
Has Sunrise gotten the 4k treatment yet? It's been restored a number of times, and that seems like a no-brainer.
- EddieLarkin
- Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:25 pm
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I'm not sure what the AR has got to do with whether a film benefits from HDR or not? But I couldn't disagree more in regards to its use with b&w titles, if that's what you mean. Higher contrast but with greater shadow detail and more nuanced highlights is a hell of a look, and I found It's a Wonderful Life and Schindler's List to be transformative. If done right Touch of Evil will likely blow away all previous Blu-rays.david hare wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:06 pmOn the subject of UHD discs of 1.37 material, while so far I think Sony's Mr Smith is the best example by far, I think there is very little or even no place in the 4K transfers for HDR. Does anyone agree?