Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4152 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:36 pm

DandyDancing wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:07 pm
Looky looky
https://twitter.com/janusfilms/status/1 ... 1557050369
Ugh, the color of that beach still looks awful.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4153 Post by soundchaser » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:07 pm

Oh damn, new restorations? I wonder from where. I love three of the four to bits, but they’d have to be a pretty big revelation to justify a double dip on my Potemkine set.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4154 Post by fdm » Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:37 am

Wish somebody would get around to those neglected Chabrol classics.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4155 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:49 am

I was gonna say, I know his oeuvre is thinner than a few of the fellow Cahiers, but I wouldn’t have guessed Rohmer would be the first of the bunch to have all his films on blu, which seems to be an approaching possibility

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4156 Post by Saturnome » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:55 am

Doesn't the Potemkine set already feature all of his films?

I'd love a release of 4 aventures de Rainette et Mirabelle, it would have to be released on it's own as it's not part of any of Rohmer's cycle.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4157 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:02 am

It's in the Arrow Academy set lumped in with the Comedies and Proverbs, and is indeed one of his very best films

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4158 Post by Saturnome » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:25 am

And here I was waiting for some future american release of the Comedies and Provebs set, hoping it would include a film the Arrow release already have. Well, I'll buy it very soon.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4159 Post by swo17 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:44 am

Saturnome wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:55 am
Doesn't the Potemkine set already feature all of his films?
Yes, but a couple are DVD-only, some shorts are unsubbed, and many of the transfers could be bettered

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4160 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:35 am

Saturnome wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:25 am
And here I was waiting for some future american release of the Comedies and Provebs set, hoping it would include a film the Arrow release already have. Well, I'll buy it very soon.
I don’t believe the current in-print version carries that film, as it seems four of the ten in the LE were excluded once that went out of print. You may need to search for it from third party vendors

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4161 Post by JSC » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:41 am

Concerning the feature films:

The Marquise of O, Perceval, Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle, and L'arbre, le maire et la médiathèque
were jettisoned from the original Arrow Comedies and Proverbs box set.

In the Potemkine set, The Lady and the Duke, Triple Agent and The Romance of Astrea and Celadon are
DVD only. The latter two were shot on 35 and 16mm respectively, so an upgrade would be nice. The only other
feature film not available (except in the Potemkine set) is Rendevous in Paris.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4162 Post by Saturnome » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:05 pm

Oof... I get it now. Looking at the prices I see for the original Arrow set including the four additional films, it seems like I've missed my chance.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4163 Post by bad future » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:47 pm

That pains me too... I’m hoping there’s someday an affordable blu-ray release of Reinette & Mirabelle, maybe if it’s ever released in the US, but that feels pretty remote when so many of his better-known films remain unreleased or out of print here, and Criterion has been sitting on Green Ray for a while (or at least Janus has had it for a while I think, though this could be pandemic-brain.)

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4164 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:54 pm

Criterion seems pretty invested in him, I wouldn't be surprised if they released that and some of his middle films, especially given how well the Arrow set sold of which I'm sure they're aware

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4165 Post by senseabove » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:12 pm

The Potemkine set's entirely worth it if you want the less-bankable Rohmer features, even if only the features are English friendly. And if you get it for less than $250, which shouldn't be too hard, with 24 films, you're still coming out ahead compared to buying a bunch of smaller Criterion sets (barring an eventual Criterion version of the Potemkine box, at least).

The transfers that were newer in the Arrow set weren't night and day differences from the Potemkine version, unless you have very strong feelings about the contentious ARs, and iirc I preferred the Potemkines' colors... but I can't seem to find the Arrow/Potemkine caps comparisons I know I've come across before.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4166 Post by JSC » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:21 pm

Plus, you get a couple of My Night at Maud's themed tea bags!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4167 Post by Michael Kerpan » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:43 pm

I just wish the Potemkine set had subtitled the major extras at least.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4168 Post by barryconvex » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:51 am

I kick myself regularly for missing out on both those sets. Rainette et Mirabelle is probably the movie I wish I could see most and while $250-300 for 24 movies is a great deal for a lifetime of films it's still $250-300...

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4169 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:27 am

Haven't looked through all of the latest additions to the channel buy Ann Hui's 'Boat People' opens up with the CC and Janus logo. It also looks to be sourced from a brand new restoration that looks quite stunning!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4170 Post by DandyDancing » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:40 am

Wolf's Hole also opens with the cc logo.

*Just checked Calamity too.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4171 Post by jwd5275 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:54 am

They actually added seven new Vera Chytilova titles, all of which begin with Criterion and Janus logos. In addition to Calamity and Wolf's Hole they added:

Bag of Fleas
TGM the Liberator
Prefab Story
Ceiling
Fruit of Paradise

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4172 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:29 pm

I just noticed something weird. Three of Paramount's titles on blu-rays (but not DVDs) with Criterion are listed as Currently Unavailable on CC's site but yet have gone up for pre-order from Paramount... Rosemary's Baby, Days of Heaven and Don't Look Now. Coincidence?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4173 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:10 pm

Huh, wasn't expecting things to go in that direction. Hopefully this isn't evidence against the hopes of Paramount and Criterion having a new fruitful deal

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4174 Post by beamish14 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:23 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:29 pm
I just noticed something weird. Three of Paramount's titles on blu-rays (but not DVDs) with Criterion are listed as Currently Unavailable on CC's site but yet have gone up for pre-order from Paramount... Rosemary's Baby, Days of Heaven and Don't Look Now. Coincidence?

They were on Target's site but have been taken down.

I was looking forward to a fresh batch of Paramount titles like Leadbelly (all of Gordon Parks' films are on the Channel, and this one has a nice HD master).

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#4175 Post by Big Ben » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:30 pm

My only guess is steaming maybe? Because I imagine the average consumer is buying Paramount+ to watch......Days of Heaven. \:D/

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