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#4076 Post by Maltic » Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:45 pm

Spooky Encounters is a major Sammo off the list (remaining are The Prodigal Son, Pedicab Driver, Warriors Two, The Victim, Knockabout...)

Any word about extras?

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#4077 Post by tenia » Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:47 pm

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Was really annoyed at how quick the Lucky Stars collection sold out. I literally tried ordering it this morning and scalpers on eBay are already selling it at double the value. I just want to see Sammo Hung punch a man in drag in the dick! :(
The standard release can be ordered at Eureka's webstore for £27.99. :wink:

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#4078 Post by dshooker » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:07 pm

Maltic wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:45 pm
Spooky Encounters is a major Sammo off the list (remaining are The Prodigal Son, Pedicab Driver, Warriors Two, The Victim, Knockabout...)

Any word about extras?
Agreed! I own the HK Blu of Spooky Encounters and the restoration looks amazing but, unfortunately, no extras. Excited to find out more tomorrow.

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#4079 Post by Maltic » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:24 pm

The Kam & Ronson BD? I was expecting a new rm/transfer for Eureka, actually.

I'm guessing there will at least be a commentary, with either Mike Leeder (not my cup of tea) or Frank Djeng (hit and miss for me, good on Throw Down and Iron-Fisted Monk, less good on Eastern Condors and The Bride With White Hair).

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#4080 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:08 pm

Maltic wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:24 pm
The Kam & Ronson BD? I was expecting a new rm/transfer for Eureka, actually.

I'm guessing there will at least be a commentary, with either Mike Leeder (not my cup of tea) or Frank Djeng (hit and miss for me, good on Throw Down and Iron-Fisted Monk, less good on Eastern Condors and The Bride With White Hair).
Mike Leeder hasn't been on a MoC release for a while. I don't know why, but I sometimes get the feeling it has to do with Eureka allowing pro-Hong Kong democracy comments on a few of their previous releases while Leeder has been openly vocal against the movement and in support of the mainland Chinese government. But don't quote me, it's just a theory.

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#4081 Post by Maltic » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:22 pm

I guess that would rule out any Jackie commentaries on future releases as well. :lol:

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#4082 Post by Orlac » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:59 pm

Mike Leeder is pretty poor on the facts at times.

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#4083 Post by What A Disgrace » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:43 pm

Eureka! is getting dangerously close to the point where they'll have to release German silent classics that I haven't actually seen before.

I'm not complaining, mind you, I've been wanting to re-watch Orlac for years, and every step closer to putting out Chronicle of the Gray House or Sylvester is a step worth taking.

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#4084 Post by Tommaso » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:13 pm

Before it comes to these, they will probably first have to release "Jeanne Ney" or "Der Geiger von Florenz" (both of which, like "Orlac", have been out on blu in Germany for quite some time). ;)

However, for those who could wait because they've already seen these films thanks to TV transmissions or elsewhere, the MoC releases are definitely the ones to go for, simply because of the many new extras and the booklet essays. The German releases - quite apart from the lack of subtitles in most cases - are more or less barebones apart from occasionally offering some alternative international release versions, which are almost always only of historical interest.

I actually also wonder why there isn't an MoC "Grieshuus" yet. Perhaps the director is too unknown? Even in Germany the new resto was only released on dvd by Murnau-Stiftung, not on blu, and it's already out of print, so probably it wasn't exactly a big seller... As to "Sylvester", I heard rumours about some restoration going on right now, but I forgot whether it was Murnau Stiftung or Filmmuseum München doing the job.

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#4085 Post by denti alligator » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:22 pm

Oh, Sylvester! [drool]

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#4086 Post by brundlefly » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:32 am

rapta wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:25 am
Next up in June are Robert Wiene's The Hands of Orlac (MoC), Johnnie To's PTU (MoC) and Sammo Hung's Encounters of a Spooky Kind (Eureka Classics).

In unexpected but positive news, apparently first pressing of The Lucky Star 3-Film Collection has already gone OOP, and the initial Limited Edition of Viy is about to go OOP too (the standard reissue will lose the second disc and slipcover).

Also, as has been the fashion of UK boutiques recently, the third volume of Buster Keaton triple-bills is back in stock very briefly. Apparently 50 copies were found in a warehouse and put back on sale this morning, and they're already down to 25 so it seems to be flying out of the door!
Thanks for mentioning this. Had been sleeping on MoC releases lately and did not know their limited editions have been selling out so quickly. Viy was unavailable yesterday and had been snapped up at all vendors, but Eureka received a "limited amount of stock" back in today.

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#4087 Post by Finch » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:57 am

They really need to follow Indicator's example of regular low stock updates.

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#4088 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:27 pm

Dammit, just seeing this and Viy's LE is back to "out of stock"

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#4089 Post by Finch » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:03 pm

From the reviews I read of the bonus film, it seems at best like a curiosity and not something I'd watch again, unlike Viy, so I can wait for the standard edition unless the Synapse disc happens to be on sale before then.

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#4090 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:08 pm

Cool, yeah I'm glad at least the shorts are on the first disc

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#4091 Post by What A Disgrace » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:44 am

July releases leaked by Amazon.
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Standard edition Keaton volume 3 (only Masters of Cinema title so far)
The Millionaires' Express (two disc limited edition)
Wild Search

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#4092 Post by yoloswegmaster » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:55 am

Holy shit, Eureka continues to kill it with the HK releases. With the release of 'Wild Search', does this mean that the rest of the Golden Princess titles are now able to be licensed?

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#4093 Post by rapta » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:06 pm

In for Wild Search, great they're starting to finally do some Ringo Lam and Chow Yun-fat and also surprised they got Golden Princess stuff! Wonder if they can do any more Lam, like the '...on Fire' films for example, since they're apparently having trouble getting any of the well-known John Woo titles (I asked them once and they said they were in 'licensing limbo'). I also wonder if they can get Full Contact eventually as it seems to be with Sony according to Park Circus, so wouldn't be impossible.

PS: Other Golden Princess titles I could see them doing...Peking Opera Blues, The Swordsman.

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#4094 Post by yoloswegmaster » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:17 pm

rapta wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:06 pm
In for Wild Search, great they're starting to finally do some Ringo Lam and Chow Yun-fat and also surprised they got Golden Princess stuff! Wonder if they can do any more Lam, like the '...on Fire' films for example, since they're apparently having trouble getting any of the well-known John Woo titles (I asked them once and they said they were in 'licensing limbo'). I also wonder if they can get Full Contact eventually as it seems to be with Sony according to Park Circus, so wouldn't be impossible.

PS: Other Golden Princess titles I could see them doing...Peking Opera Blues, The Swordsman.
I don't think Golden Princess have the rights to any of the "...On Fire" films, besides "Prison on Fire II". Hopefully they can get the rights to 'Full Contact', 'Wicked City', or 'Peking Opera Blues'.

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#4095 Post by Calvin » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:11 pm

Peking Opera Blues would be brilliant. They'd have a hard time topping the Hong Kong Rescue 'release' but at least it would be above board.

The Hong Kong titles must be a great money-spinner for Eureka, they seem to be the main focus of the label now.

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#4096 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:19 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:17 pm
I don't think Golden Princess have the rights to any of the "...On Fire" films, besides "Prison on Fire II". Hopefully they can get the rights to 'Full Contact', 'Wicked City', or 'Peking Opera Blues'.
Golden Princess was wound up in the '90s after Lawrence Louey (the company's main backer) died and his heirs decided to pull out of the entertainment business. The Historical Dictionary of Hong Kong Cinema says its library is split between Mei Ah and Fortune Star. I believe the latter has the Cinema City stuff, including Peking Opera Blues and the On Fire films. The Dictionary also claims that Star TV only acquired their rights for the 38 Asian territories where the service was operating at the time, which might explain why those titles are in limbo for some markets but apparently not others, like Japan and Korea.

The Wicked City isn't with either company, Tsui and Nansun Shi held onto the rights for that one themselves.

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#4097 Post by yoloswegmaster » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:39 pm

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:19 pm


Golden Princess was wound up in the '90s after Lawrence Louey (the company's main backer) died and his heirs decided to pull out of the entertainment business. The Historical Dictionary of Hong Kong Cinema says its library is split between Mei Ah and Fortune Star. I believe the latter has the Cinema City stuff, including Peking Opera Blues and the On Fire films. The Dictionary also claims that Star TV only acquired their rights for the 38 Asian territories where the service was operating at the time, which might explain why those titles are in limbo for some markets but apparently not others, like Japan and Korea.

The Wicked City isn't with either company, Tsui and Nansun Shi held onto the rights for that one themselves.
Since I can't find 'Wild Search' on the Fortune Star site, would it be safe to assume that 'Wild Search' is being licensed from Mei Ah or is it with a different company?

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#4098 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:04 pm

Probably Mei Ah unless there's something else going on with the UK/international rights. The Hong Kong BD from CN Entertainment credited it to Mei Ah and this was also the case with PTU.

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#4099 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:39 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:39 pm
The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:19 pm


Golden Princess was wound up in the '90s after Lawrence Louey (the company's main backer) died and his heirs decided to pull out of the entertainment business. The Historical Dictionary of Hong Kong Cinema says its library is split between Mei Ah and Fortune Star. I believe the latter has the Cinema City stuff, including Peking Opera Blues and the On Fire films. The Dictionary also claims that Star TV only acquired their rights for the 38 Asian territories where the service was operating at the time, which might explain why those titles are in limbo for some markets but apparently not others, like Japan and Korea.

The Wicked City isn't with either company, Tsui and Nansun Shi held onto the rights for that one themselves.
Since I can't find 'Wild Search' on the Fortune Star site, would it be safe to assume that 'Wild Search' is being licensed from Mei Ah or is it with a different company?
The Hong Kong Blu-ray for Wild Search lists the license from Mei Ah.

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#4100 Post by rapta » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:06 pm

Ah interesting. Perhaps Eureka tried to license some Ringo Lam from Fortune Star (such as the ...On Fire films) and were denied so they looked into other companies to license some from and now have a deal with Mei Ah too? That or they're waiting on restorations for the Fortune Star titles, of course, or some other rights issues.

Full Contact seems quite likely if they have Sony, Mei Ah and Fortune Star deals active at the moment and it's both Ringo Lam and Chow Yun-fat. And would surely be the ideal kind of title to release after things like Time and Tide. In fact as much as the Sammo Hung stuff seems quite fun, I'm more interested in the HK action stuff personally and definitely hope they continue with it!

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