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L.A.
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Re: Il Cinema Ritrovato

#126 Post by L.A. » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:07 pm

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Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:40 pm
EL AUTOMÓVIL GRIS (Messico, 1919) di Enrique Rosas – Cineteca Nacional México (blu-ray)
Contacted Cineteca about this. Fingers crossed they’ll reply. [-o<
Well, they never replied (surprise surprise). Fortunately a friend of mine found a copy for me at the Pordenone Silent Film Festival and this is limited to 700 copies.

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Re: Il Cinema Ritrovato

#127 Post by Saimo » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:29 am


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#128 Post by L.A. » Sat May 08, 2021 5:49 am

Finalists for the DVD Awards 2021.
SELECTIONS OF THE CHINESE FIFTH GENERATION DIRECTOR’S WORKS (China, 1985-1987) by Huang Jianxin,
Tian Zhuangzhuang, Chen Kaige – Beijing Disk Kino Culture & Media Co. Ltd. (blu-ray)
Now what might this be? Was there a box set or something? :-k

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#129 Post by Calvin » Sat May 08, 2021 6:00 am

I think they're referring to a collection of separate releases from Diskino of Red Sorghum, The Horse Thief, King of the Children, Swordsman in Double Flag Town and The Black Cannon Incident. I have them and they're quite nice. There's a Tony Rayns interview on each one.

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#130 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Sat May 08, 2021 4:29 pm

That seems to be the case, but it's a bit odd since those were released in 2019, during the eligibility period for the 2020 awards. Diskino subsequently put out some cut-down reissues with simplified packaging but the same on-disc content, so I guess that's how they're justifying the nomination—but in that case, why are they excluding the reissue of Red Sorghum that came out alongside them? Swordsman in Double Flag Town isn't eligible since the awards are only given for pre-1990 films.

Anyway, I wrote about the Horse Thief and Black Cannon Incident discs here; I still haven't watched the King of the Children disc even though it's by far my favorite of the films in the series. I hope these restorations get more accessible releases elsewhere, but so far only Red Sorghum has surfaced outside of China, as part of a Korean set of four Zhang Yimou films (three of which don't have English subtitles).

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#131 Post by DeprongMori » Sun May 09, 2021 3:52 am

Any idea who in the Anglophone world might pick up Alain Cavalier’s 1986 film Thérèse, which has just been restored and released by Tamasa in France, with no English subtitles? I saw this when it first came out, and I’ve been thinking about it over the years and hoping to see it again.

Here’s the Washington Post review at the time.

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#132 Post by Stefan Andersson » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:54 am

First news about the 2021 festival:
https://festival.ilcinemaritrovato.it/en/sezioni/

Titles include Frenchman´s Creek, Kuhle Wampe, Loves of Carmen, Me and My Brother, Uski Roti (from the OCN), The 400 Blows (new resto), Hard Luck, Three Ages, Il Mulino del Po, Les Oliviers de la justice, The Man Who Had His Hair Cut Short, sections on Herman Mankiewicz and Wolfgang Staudte and more.

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Re: Il Cinema Ritrovato

#133 Post by L.A. » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:26 am


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#134 Post by david hare » Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:39 pm

As usual, totally predictably in-house back slapping. The exclusion of mainstream labels like Warner, Universal, Kino- Lorber and Arrow for instance is now criminally negligent. Even allowing for the Bert Stern movie released by Kino, the restoration was done outside house and the source was the Library of Congress.

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#135 Post by MichaelB » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:42 pm

david hare wrote:As usual, totally predictably in-house back slapping. The exclusion of mainstream labels like Warner, Universal, Kino- Lorber and Arrow for instance is now criminally negligent. Even allowing for the Bert Stern movie released by Kino, the restoration was done outside house and the source was the Library of Congress.
As I understand the situation, labels have to proactively put themselves up for consideration. Some labels do this every year, some only occasionally (I think Indicator’s only done it once), and some not at all.

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Re: Il Cinema Ritrovato

#136 Post by david hare » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:36 pm

Yes, I know Michael. But even Gaumont and Canal have given up on them. I simply loathe the kind of presumed superiority that permeates these meaningless awards. And this is from someone who’s been to Bologna for Ritrovato and has many, many friends who attend it religiously. The collegial feel of the event has always been wonderful but this moronic prize winning bullshit is beyond me.

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#137 Post by djvaso » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:15 am

Arrow Film had five candidates and one finalist. Kino Lorber had five candidates and three finalists as well as The Criterion. Other mainstream labels didn't have candidates. I notice a mistake for La classe opera(r)ia va in paradiso: Blu-ray was released by Cecchi Gori Entertainment not by Raro Video/Minerva Pictures.

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Re: Il Cinema Ritrovato

#138 Post by Saimo » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:23 am

Speaking as someone who (much to his own disbelief) won the main award in 2019, I feel that the DVD Awards palmares is often surprising, but I think this may have something to do with the splendidly heterogeneous background of the Jury members. While I can occasionally disagree with some of their choices, I always find the extended finalists list very stimulating, also because it is not entirely focused on U.S. and British labels.
MichaelB wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:42 pm
As I understand the situation, labels have to proactively put themselves up for consideration.
Yes, but in my experience you just have to send a package with a few of your favorite releases. Really not a resource consuming effort.
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Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:15 am
I notice a mistake for La classe opera(r)ia va in paradiso: Blu-ray was released by Cecchi Gori Entertainment not by Raro Video/Minerva Pictures.
I think this was actually a co-edition, with Cecchi Gori mainly handling distribution. They do that for several Italian labels, but the film's rights and materials are owned by Minerva.

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Re: Il Cinema Ritrovato

#139 Post by MichaelB » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:34 am

Saimo wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:23 am
Yes, but in my experience you just have to send a package with a few of your favorite releases. Really not a resource consuming effort.
It's still something that you have to proactively do, and many labels clearly don't bother. I think Powerhouse has only done it once, in the year that scored them two nominations - I know for a fact that they didn't do it before that year, and I didn't see any of my colleagues mention that it was being done this year either.

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