Vinegar Syndrome and Their Partner Labels

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Black Hat
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

#2026 Post by Black Hat » Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:24 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:34 pm
Black Hat wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:09 pm
Vinegar Syndrome has never interested me but, if anyone has any recs worth adding to my preorder of Looking for Mr. Goodbar to qualify for free shipping I'm listening.
Have you gotten anything from Fun City Editions, an old partner label of theirs? Lots of great indie American cinema (though not just that). I'd especially recommend their releases of Jeremy, I Start Counting!, and Married to the Mob (of course)
I have purchased a few through Radiance including Married to the Mob.

Michael and others shouting out Deaf Crocodile is cool because I don't think I've ever picked up a release of theirs. These are all great recs for many films I've never heard of and a reminder to watch the Icarus titles I've purchased. Now I just need to figure out which ones I should purchase directly thru VS or from some place like DD. That, and getting over feeling insane for still spending so much money on blurays. I just forked over $200+ to Indicator.

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#2027 Post by TechnicolorAcid » Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:25 pm

Oh I almost forget that Vinegar Syndrome also has The Candy Snatchers which is a darkly comic piece of Grindhouse cinema verging on Tarantino. Also Deaf Crocodile is most definitely worth your time, fantastic company. Kin-Dza-Dza and The Unknown Man of Shandigor being my recommendations from them.

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Re: Vinegar Syndrome et al.

#2028 Post by TechnicolorAcid » Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:28 pm

Black Hat wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:24 pm
That, and getting over feeling insane for still spending so much money on blurays. I just forked over $200+ to Indicator.
They have a half off sale later this month so I’d wait a little bit before price matching (though it’s only for titles 6 months and older).

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Vinegar Syndrome et al.

#2029 Post by jazzo » Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:15 am

Can anyone speak to Jiří Havelka’s The Owners from partner label, Big World Pictures? It sounds like something up my alley, and very early Milos Formanesque, but being Canadian, I’m trying to be more selective in my $40 blind-buys since these are all imports.

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#2030 Post by TechnicolorAcid » Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:18 am

jazzo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:15 am
Can anyone speak to Jiří Havelka’s The Owners from partner label, Big World Pictures? It sounds like something up my alley, and very early Milos Formanesque, but being Canadian, I’m trying to be more selective in my $40 blind-buys since these are all imports.
I can’t directly speak on it but it does seem very similar to Eldar Ryazanov’s The Garage (as mentioned previously in this thread and one I really love), so I’d recommend starting off with that because if you enjoy that you’d probably like this too.

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#2031 Post by jazzo » Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:21 am

Thank you!

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#2032 Post by beamish14 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:07 am

Please consider picking up AGFA’s Jon Moritsugu collection. He’s one of the most distinctive and entertaining American filmmakers we’ve got, and it’s an incredible bargain considering how many features are on it

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#2033 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:10 pm

VS posted an image of some inventory containing the unannounced titles heading to their warehouses but quickly deleted it once a reddit user was able to find that one of the unannounced titles is for Corey Yuen's Women on the Run. I saw this film a couple years ago and thought that it was an alright film with decent action scenes until it reaches the
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gangrape scene
, a scene that's so outlandish and in such bad taste (even by HK standards) that it just left a really bad impression even after the film ended. I wish they were releasing a different Corey Yuen film, like Ninja in the Dragon's Den.

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#2034 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:10 pm

Co-sign everything. Women on the Run is pretty lame. I felt bad for the women involved, who were clearly talented but just being exploited by the filmmakers, including being forced to perform fight scenes completely naked with no attempt to hide or obscure anything (everything's in medium shots). Even the fight choreography was meh by Yuen's standards. I don't know why he felt the need to try his hand at low rent exploitation.

Ninja in the Dragon's Den is sorely in need of a rescue. An amazing debut.

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#2035 Post by Aunt Peg » Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:25 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:07 am
Please consider picking up AGFA’s Jon Moritsugu collection. He’s one of the most distinctive and entertaining American filmmakers we’ve got, and it’s an incredible bargain considering how many features are on it
I'll second that.

I purchased the collection when it first became available having only ever seen Terminal USA years ago and loving it. That still holds up so well and Fame Whore was simply brilliant. Moritsugu is s singular talent.

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#2036 Post by TechnicolorAcid » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:57 pm

I think the Cinematographe that’s due on Black Friday is bound to Minnie & Moskowitz not only because one of the hints specifically because it’s been established it’s now the oldest film in the lineup (Thieves Like Us was from ‘74) but the newsletter taunts a long-lost director’s cut of the film (Cassevetes’ cut had an opening scene removed which never appeared in a DVD release). So I think M&M is in the bag.

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#2037 Post by beamish14 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:27 pm

TechnicolorAcid wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:57 pm
I think the Cinematographe that’s due on Black Friday is bound to Minnie & Moskowitz not only because one of the hints specifically because it’s been established it’s now the oldest film in the lineup (Thieves Like Us was from ‘74) but the newsletter taunts a long-lost director’s cut of the film (Cassevetes’ cut had an opening scene removed which never appeared in a DVD release). So I think M&M is in the bag.
Universal supposedly recut it in violation of the Final Cut contract Cassavetes received. I truly hope you’re right

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#2038 Post by luxta » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:30 am

Chelsea Girls?

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#2039 Post by luxta » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:39 am

Several options for secret titles :D

1. The Keep and The Prophecy (1979) (+ unrated)
2. Jade (+ unrated) and Return to Horror High
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#2040 Post by TechnicolorAcid » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:48 am

luxta wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:30 am
Chelsea Girls?
I’m not sure that has a director’s cut though so it’s probably not that.

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#2041 Post by TVC15 » Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 pm

TechnicolorAcid wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:57 pm
I think the Cinematographe that’s due on Black Friday is bound to Minnie & Moskowitz not only because one of the hints specifically because it’s been established it’s now the oldest film in the lineup (Thieves Like Us was from ‘74) but the newsletter taunts a long-lost director’s cut of the film (Cassevetes’ cut had an opening scene removed which never appeared in a DVD release). So I think M&M is in the bag.
That's a comedy though and the 2 art teases they've released so far look bleak and gloomy

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#2042 Post by MichaelB » Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:58 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 pm
That's a comedy though and the 2 art teases they've released so far look bleak and gloomy
Have you actually seen it? I mean, it's lighter than the average Cassavetes but it's hardly a riotous thigh-slapper.

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#2043 Post by luxta » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:35 am

Maybe Badge 373 had some director's cut, who knows. Neo-noir, New York, rain, neon signs...

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#2044 Post by beamish14 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:55 pm

Maybe De Palma’s The Black Dahlia? It’s an hour shorter than what he had wanted

Edit: totally forgot about the period its from

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#2045 Post by luxta » Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:31 pm

Coming soon \:D/

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#2046 Post by dwk » Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:06 am

The Keep (UHD)
Sliver (UHD)
Women on the Run (VSA)
Neither the Sea Nor the Sand (VSL)
Who Killed Teddy Bear (UHD)(Cinematographe)
Alexandra (Quality X)
The Passions of Carol (Quality X)
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#2047 Post by ryannichols7 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:10 am

I know I shouldn't be the one to say this, but after all this wait time for Goodbar and The Keep, those were the best covers they could do?

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#2048 Post by beamish14 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:42 am

No deleted scenes from The Keep or Sliver, which has one of the most infamous and well-documented alternate endings ever? Talk about let-downs

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#2049 Post by MichaelB » Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:32 am

I assumed The Keep would be barebones, and so I was very pleasantly surprised that there were any extras at all. But I'd have been astonished if there was any deleted footage, because presumably such a thing would require Michael Mann's permission, and he's made it very clear that he wants nothing to do with the film any more.

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#2050 Post by Calvin » Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:49 am

MichaelB wrote:I assumed The Keep would be barebones, and so I was very pleasantly surprised that there were any extras at all. But I'd have been astonished if there was any deleted footage, because presumably such a thing would require Michael Mann's permission, and he's made it very clear that he wants nothing to do with the film any more.
Is it not the case that they would have needed Michael Mann's permission anyway? Certainly when Kino licensed it, the reason they gave for dropping it was that, under DGA rules, Mann's consent would need to be given for a new transfer to be made and he was blocking this from happening.

Which is why I'm surprised this was happening at all! I think some folks got excited from this tweet (or whatever we call them now) where it appears Paramount had done something with a workprint.

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