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Re: The Wire

#226 Post by domino harvey »

I live in Baltimore, and filming in East or West Baltimore is the same as visiting: respect the residents and community and don't interfere with (illegal) business and you'll be fine. Filming was omnipresent and part of the city. Now we've just transitioned to House of Cards, which films in other parts of the city to replicate DC.
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#227 Post by domino harvey »

Lawrence Gilliard Jr homaged his chess lesson in this Ravens game intro for Monday Night Football (starts ~4:20)
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#228 Post by Never Cursed »

Someone on Twitter posted a fascinating document from The Wire's production - a pitch/early show bible for the first season of the show. Lots of really interesting divergences from the course the season would take and references to the show's inspirations (at least one Mamet namecheck, for instance). One of the biggest changes (though a classic first-draft-of-TV-show thing):
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Kima is killed in an equivalent of the Orlando sting-gone-wrong
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#229 Post by hanshotfirst1138 »

This is the best television show I’ve ever seen. Incredibly rich narratively and thematically.
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#230 Post by domino harvey »

hanshotfirst1138 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:38 pm This is the best television show I’ve ever seen. Incredibly rich narratively and thematically.
You gotta bring more than this to a conversation here. Future empty posts like this will be deleted until you get your average up here
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#231 Post by hanshotfirst1138 »

domino harvey wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 5:31 pm
hanshotfirst1138 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:38 pm This is the best television show I’ve ever seen. Incredibly rich narratively and thematically.
You gotta bring more than this to a conversation here. Future empty posts like this will be deleted until you get your average up here
Understood. I apologize.
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#232 Post by denti alligator »

I rewatched this with my son last year, and while I still think season 4 is the high point, I was surprised to find that season 5 worked beautifully. I remember it being a serious disappointment. I can’t even say why now, because it‘s a great ending to the series, brining many of the character arcs to a satisfying close.
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#233 Post by therewillbeblus »

I'm a big fan of season 5, and this watch I'm hoping to like season 2 more, which was the only weak spot for me on a first pass.

My wife and I just finished the first season. She's incredibly averse to violence but loves it anyways, which speaks to its power. It's my second time going through it, and while it's always been at/near the top of my favorite shows, I'm noticing myself seeking comedy shows to supplement just how grave it is. Knowing how things play out, I'm finding myself taking a more critical eye, which I don't love - for instance
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D is so obviously a softy around every top dog that it's unrealistic that he isn't viewed as a liability. The scene where he repeatedly won't engage with Weebay's directions to the point of Weebay literally pulling him along would be so unbelievably suspicious!
That's the only 'problem' I've noticed though, and hopefully I can stop noticing them
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#234 Post by Murdoch »

I'll have to give this show another chance. I've tried a few times and made it to season 2, but it just never clicked for me. I think working in criminal defense and seeing how bad of actors police are across the board has turned me off from any portrayal which casts them as the reasonable voice in the room (at least regarding depictions of police in US media).
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#235 Post by zedz »

denti alligator wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 6:51 pm I rewatched this with my son last year, and while I still think season 4 is the high point, I was surprised to find that season 5 worked beautifully. I remember it being a serious disappointment. I can’t even say why now, because it‘s a great ending to the series, brining many of the character arcs to a satisfying close.
I think the main issue with the final season is that they had to compress the story into fewer episodes, and this made some of the normally impeccably subtle plotting more jerky and transparent. There were also complaints at the time that the mouthpiece characters representing the media were too saintly, blunt and plain unsubtle. I felt that complaint was overstated. Again, this may have been an impact of the episode reduction, as each of the institutions explored in the previous seasons have had their positive, possibly too-idealistic, exemplars, but they were presented in a denser complex of flawed / corrupt / indifferent counter-examples.

As I recall from the discussion at the time, we were lucky to get a final season at all, let alone one as good as it was.
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#236 Post by zedz »

Murdoch wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 9:59 pm I'll have to give this show another chance. I've tried a few times and made it to season 2, but it just never clicked for me. I think working in criminal defense and seeing how bad of actors police are across the board has turned me off from any portrayal which casts them as the reasonable voice in the room (at least regarding depictions of police in US media).
You'll definitely get more 'bad action' if you persevere!

One of my favourite aspects of the series, which only becomes apparent towards the end, is
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just how much bad stuff happens because of Herc. Not because he's evil, or corrupt, but because he can't be arsed to do his job(s) properly. He ends up almost being the series' secret villain.
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