186-188 Histoire(s) du cinéma and other works

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Re: 186-188 Histoire(s) du cinéma and other works

#51 Post by tenia »


MichaelB wrote: As for "artificially made not to be", it's pretty much never the case that a boutique label will region-lock if they don't have to; it's always a contractual obligation imposed by the rightsholder. A savvy label will actively want people to buy outside the region, and will therefore ensure that there are no compatibility barriers beyond the simple region flag.
I read "artificially" as "a debatable contractually-imposed practice", made to look all the more archaic by UHD's choice to be without locking by design.

However, while not wanting to play the devil's advocate, isn't a label actively looking to sell outside its market... breaching that contract ? The savviness is obvious, and I'm myself part of those who can navigate around region-locking, but, say, Indicator's Region B UK releases are for movies they only have the rights in the UK, possibly because someone else have them elsewhere (in the US, but also in other Region B markets - France, Germany, Italy, etc). One could argue that actively (key word) looking to sell past the borders of the rights they hold is over-stepping contractually.
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#52 Post by MichaelB »

To quote that splendid Polish phrase, “not my circus, not my monkeys”. On a technical level, I do what the label asks of me, unless of course it’s impossible (although this is hardly ever the case with the labels I freelance for).
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#53 Post by tenia »

I certainly understand this, but what we're writing here about this matter certainly is our circus and thus our monkey. :)
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#54 Post by MichaelB »

I think you underestimate how little I care about this stuff when it’s not in my professional in-tray.
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#55 Post by nowhereisaplace »

I just received this and the package looks amazing. Per usual, the Adrian Martin essay is excellent. I can't wait to dive into the rest.
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#56 Post by denti alligator »

Mine finally shipped from Orbit today. It’s held up an order I placed in April. Excited to get it and a bunch of other goodies.
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#57 Post by Grand Wazoo »

domino harvey wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:49 pm I doubt this sells out for a while, late period Godard is not as popular as some of us on this forum make it seem. I recall Arrow took forever to sell through their Dziga Vertov boxes, though those are admittedly much more obtuse then these films
75% sold out according to the Discord.
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Grand Wazoo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 11:36 pm
domino harvey wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:49 pm I doubt this sells out for a while, late period Godard is not as popular as some of us on this forum make it seem. I recall Arrow took forever to sell through their Dziga Vertov boxes, though those are admittedly much more obtuse then these films
75% sold out according to the Discord.
It's a really nice looking package. Not something I'd usually buy (sorry to those who enjoy late period Godard) but part of me was like "but ooh, look at it!"
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#59 Post by hearthesilence »

It's tempting to get this, but I'll have to think it over. Since the Madman DVD was exemplary, I imagine the extras are really the selling point rather than any potential upgrade in PQ.
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#60 Post by Calvin »

The Cinematheque Francaise's Henri platform has the 1988 Entretien entre Serge Daney et Jean-Luc Godard, recorded when Godard had started working on Histoire(s), streaming for free with subtitles. Looks like it has been digitised from the original tapes.
Grand Wazoo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 11:36 pm
domino harvey wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:49 pm I doubt this sells out for a while, late period Godard is not as popular as some of us on this forum make it seem. I recall Arrow took forever to sell through their Dziga Vertov boxes, though those are admittedly much more obtuse then these films
75% sold out according to the Discord.
Hopefully bodes well for further Godard releases from Radiance. Nouvelle Vague is still conspicuous by its absence on disc and it would be great to get the recent restorations of In Praise of Love, Notre Musique, and Passion on disc as well.
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Calvin wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 5:47 pm The Cinematheque Francaise's Henri platform has the 1988 Entretien entre Serge Daney et Jean-Luc Godard, recorded when Godard had started working on Histoire(s), streaming for free with subtitles. Looks like it has been digitised from the original tapes.
Grand Wazoo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 11:36 pm
domino harvey wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:49 pm I doubt this sells out for a while, late period Godard is not as popular as some of us on this forum make it seem. I recall Arrow took forever to sell through their Dziga Vertov boxes, though those are admittedly much more obtuse then these films
75% sold out according to the Discord.
Hopefully bodes well for further Godard releases from Radiance. Nouvelle Vague is still conspicuous by its absence on disc and it would be great to get the recent restorations of In Praise of Love, Notre Musique, and Passion on disc as well.
And all of these films can be paired with shorter works from the same period that explore similar themes and preoccupations, much like this Histoire(s) box. I am thinking of Scenario du film Passion, Passion, le travail et l'amour, the shorts he made at Zoetrope around the same time for the Passion package, several late 80's/early 90's video shorts he did around the time of Nouvelle Vague, etc. Would be a great way to release some interesting lesser-seen work alongside the acknowledged masterpieces.
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#62 Post by domino harvey »

Got my copy and it’s much slimmer than I expected. It’s exactly the width of the old Criterion double wide DVD cases, if you need a visual to plan for your shelf space

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#63 Post by hearthesilence »

I thought articles were supposed to be disregarded when filing by alphabetical order. Is that only done for certain languages like English?
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That’s right I just do it wrong. I also file by An and A, I’m a madman
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hearthesilence wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2026 12:30 am I thought articles were supposed to be disregarded when filing by alphabetical order. Is that only done for certain languages like English?
That reminds me that I still need to research whether "articles" are disregarded when they come at the start of the title, but are not actually an article in this case but instead a pronoun. Ditto with articles in cases other than the nominative.
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#66 Post by Drucker »

Glad to see some of those discs still wrapped. He's human, just like us.
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Drucker wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2026 1:03 pm Glad to see some of those discs still wrapped. He's human, just like us.
Finally some GRAILZ! I'm hella jelly of your Godard Gorin set Lol
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#68 Post by Peacock »

I’m just curious at seeing the kevyip mixed in with the watched stuff. Maybe I’ve been doing it wrong separating them into different places!
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#69 Post by domino harvey »

If I’ve seen it before, I don’t consider it “unwatched” for purposes of organization. My true unwatched titles are separate from my shelving in milk cartons. If I’ve seen a larger set partially that I intend to keep on the shelf, I’ll put it on the shelf sticking out to indicate I haven’t seen it all
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186-188 Histoire(s) du cinéma and other works

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TMDaines wrote:That reminds me that I still need to research whether "articles" are disregarded when they come at the start of the title, but are not actually an article in this case but instead a pronoun. Ditto with articles in cases other than the nominative.
As a former library cataloger, I can probably answer that with authority. Do you have an example?

[Feel like it’s appropriate for a thread on this film to veer off on a pedantic grammatical tangent.]
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#72 Post by hearthesilence »

domino harvey wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2026 1:58 pm If I’ve seen it before, I don’t consider it “unwatched” for purposes of organization. My true unwatched titles are separate from my shelving in milk cartons. If I’ve seen a larger set partially that I intend to keep on the shelf, I’ll put it on the shelf sticking out to indicate I haven’t seen it all
This is similar to what I do. I try to catch reissues in theaters because quite a few of them don't get released on Blu-ray anytime soon (for example, the brand-new Ousmane Sembène restorations that opened at Film Forum two years ago) but a lot of them do find a home, and if I've already caught them in theaters, I don't feel the need to open them right away. I will open them if it sounds like a disc's dislodged or if the film was released on different formats, in which case I want to make sure they didn't stick the wrong one in the case (rare but it happened to me once for a title that was going out-of-print).

For titles I've never seen or never seen in decent quality, I keep them in a small stack on my desk, and after I get to them, they go on the shelves.
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#73 Post by denti alligator »

These apparent minutiae matter a hell of a lot to me. Don’t forget the capitalization rules for German titles: capitalize only the first word and subsequent nouns. Everything else must remain lower case.

I believe articles not in the nominative case would also be ignored by alphabetization. However, you’d need to check the norms of that language first. In German, articles are often included in alphabetization—much to my annoyance. Thus it does matter that the first word of Des Knaben Wunderhorn is in the genitive case because Germans are going to file it under DES.
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#74 Post by Michael Kerpan »

"Des"? -- Why use genitive here?
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#75 Post by denti alligator »

Genitive. It’s an inverted form of “Wunderhorn des Knaben.” Typical poetic inversion.
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